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    Hikari Youko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Then, ignore him? .
    It's like a trash stinking up the corridor next to your room.

    I mean yeah, you can ignore it and you can still function, but it's there, it's stinky, and it's annoying your living space. It would be much better if that stinky trash is to be put in the trash bin where it belongs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Then, ignore him?
    You can't ignore shit that keeps popping up on the first page. And ignoring him does not prevent you from seeing his name and thread pop up.
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    Why can we not place a Glamour Dresser and Armoire as furnishings in our homes? It is extremely annoying that, in order to put items away or change my glamour plates, I have to run to an inn or Grand Company. With respect to this, SE has previously given the following response (link):

    Gamer Escape: I’m curious why we haven’t seen the glamour dresser as a furnishing item yet?

    Y: In terms of having a furnishing item… there’s a scary amount of item data connected to it. Something like a glamour dresser has a few hundred items associated with it. With furnishing items, you can move it around, or someone else can move it around… it’s very dangerous and risky and very unstable to have an item like that for you to place in your own personal housing.

    I’m sure with the convenience of moving around normal furnishings, or having retainers available, or having the ability to access market boards, it’s logical to think, “why can’t we have it as an item?” but the engineering behind that, having the items taken out, but suddenly not having it there, or having other people affect the location of the dresser…. we have to be very careful in working on that. That’s why we can’t just have it available as a furnishing item or something that can be readily placed.
    This excuse is completely untenable. There is arguably even more data tied to retainers, but we can have summoning bells in our homes. If someone tries to move / remove the summoning bell while it is in use, it gives the following error message: "Unable to execute command. Furnishing is currently in use."

    If SE does not want to let us do that for whatever reason, it would nice if they actually gave an honest answer as to why this is not possible instead of the above response.
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    Last edited by DoH; 09-21-2020 at 03:06 AM.

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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoH View Post
    If SE does not want to let us do that for whatever reason, it would nice if they actually gave an honest answer as to why this is not possible instead of the above response from 2018.
    On the other hand, what motivation would they have for arbitrarily refusing to make it a housing item if there are no functional issues with it?

    Also, a retainer is carrying 175 items. The dresser holds 400 with the potential to be expanded in future.
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    Ayis Luola
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoH View Post
    Why can we not place a Glamour Dresser and Armoire as furnishings in our homes?
    just want to point out that you CAN have an Armoire in your house, just not a Glamour Dresser
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    On the other hand, what motivation would they have for arbitrarily refusing to make it a housing item if there are no functional issues with it?

    Also, a retainer is carrying 175 items. The dresser holds 400 with the potential to be expanded in future.
    You can have up to 10 retainers (which I do), so the summoning bell can technically let you access up to 1,750 items (not counting the various equipment that you can put on each retainer, which is the equivalent of another 10 glamour plates, and the 20 additional items each retainer can put up for sale).

    Quote Originally Posted by Jade3173 View Post
    just want to point out that you CAN have an Armoire in your house, just not a Glamour Dresser
    I actually did not know that - I had just assumed that you couldn't because there's no Glamour Dresser option. That's good to know, but it makes it even more baffling why they haven't created a Glamour Dresser furnishing yet...
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    Last edited by DoH; 09-21-2020 at 03:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoH View Post
    You can have up to 10 retainers (which I do), so the summoning bell can technically let you access up to 1,750 items (not counting the various equipment that you can put on each retainer, which is the equivalent of another 10 glamour plates, and the 20 additional items each retainer can put up for sale).
    someone with more knowledge than me can probably explain it better but my guess (and judging by what I've read around the forums before) is that the Dresser accesses those 400 items every time you interact with it. With you having the 10 retainers, going to a Summoning Bell isn't actively pulling up the theoretical 1750+ items, the items your retainer has doesn't load until you select that specific retainer so it's not even pulling up 200 items at that point. It's why when you select a retainer, that's that little waiting bit before they appear, that's the game actually loading them in

    edit: just pointing out that I'm not defending it, I want the Dresser in my house, but just giving what I've heard/guess is the reason for it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade3173 View Post
    someone with more knowledge than me can probably explain it better but my guess (and judging by what I've read around the forums before) is that the Dresser accesses those 400 items every time you interact with it. With you having the 10 retainers, going to a Summoning Bell isn't actively pulling up the theoretical 1750+ items, the items your retainer has doesn't load until you select that specific retainer so it's not even pulling up 200 items at that point. It's why when you select a retainer, that's that little waiting bit before they appear, that's the game actually loading them in

    edit: just pointing out that I'm not defending it, I want the Dresser in my house, but just giving what I've heard/guess is the reason for it
    If the amount of data sent/received is the problem, I don't understand why, then, you can access the Glamour Dresser at all. It would send/receive the same amount of data no matter where you interact with it (whether that be in your house or in the GC, inn, etc.). In my previous post, I pointed out why SE's rationale for why we cannot have it is just not true (i.e., you already cannot move / remove similar objects while they are in use). It would be nice if they would at least give an honest answer as to why they refuse to create this as a furnishing instead of giving a reason that doesn't make any sense because they've already resolved this issue with other furnishings.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Yeah, retainers (and their inventories) are summoned one at a time so the game isn't trying to load all of them at once. Even with their equipment and sale items on top of the inventory, that's still just a little over half of what the dresser shows at once.
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    inventory in this game is weird and inefficiently set up, and it seems like it was an effort to get the dresser working at all. (And indeed that it's the dresser and not a more all-encompassing log, as people keep hoping for.) While I don't have knowledge of its inner workings, from the little explanation I've seen, I wouldn't be at all surprised for it to genuinely not work even though similar things do.

    Again, if there's no actual difficulty for them to implement it, why would they choose to withhold it from us?
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