6.0 summoner ideas

[Myon88]

And all ruin2 run makes for a fun case study, but is a poor argument if you're trying to frame the job as overtuned (there are still people doing this?) The melee equivalent would be... missing all your positionals on purpose. The dragoon guide from the balance discord calculates this to be a 4% dps loss, which looking at a certain site would drop you from 99th to about 93th percentile, and still far in excess of what the ranged jobs bring to the table.

So, it's a thing for the melees too. The real implication of these anecdotes is that the poor ranged jobs are being taxed too much for the 'privilege' of having no movement considerations. You've sorta come to the right answer, but from the wrong direction.

That aside I'm amused to see some of you guys sticking up for summoner for a change. The relative positions of the 3 caster jobs haven't really changed to me, but maybe they finally nerfed the job enough to placate people this time? I did say though, that the real source of perceived caster imbalance is something more structural and holistic than pure dps concerns. Which means no amount of nerfs will be enough to satisfy some people, even if they can't quite put a finger on the source of their discontent. Considering that summoner is now a mere ~1% above red mage in a dummy situation, I'm sorry to see that I'm right.