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    . Zephla and a few other youtubers talked about how horrible the RNG loot rolls and everything is in current WoW. We have it so good here, we know what to grind, how to grind it and how long it'll take to grind it
    Yeah, we know exactly how long.
    A night or two for a couple weeks.
    4 hours a week for a couple weeks.
    2 hours a week for a couple months.

    Congrats, you have BIS by now.

    Waiting 3-4 months.

    WOO THATS CERTAINLY EXCITING.

    And every other bit of content that only exists for gear or tomes is completely worthless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barraind View Post
    Yeah, we know exactly how long.
    A night or two for a couple weeks.
    4 hours a week for a couple weeks.
    2 hours a week for a couple months.

    Congrats, you have BIS by now.

    Waiting 3-4 months.

    WOO THATS CERTAINLY EXCITING.

    And every other bit of content that only exists for gear or tomes is completely worthless.
    So you want horrible RNG on top of RNG and run the risk of NEVER getting the drop ever? Because that's the other option. And people don't want that.. see all the videos and topics screaming at Blizzard for doing that to their endgame. Or Ubisoft for never sticking to anything and pissing off everyone because things change every other patch. D2 is literally unplayable because of this. So yes... I'll stick to what works then wanting rng on top of rng with more rng to add spice for more rng. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barraind View Post
    Yeah, we know exactly how long.
    A night or two for a couple weeks.
    4 hours a week for a couple weeks.
    2 hours a week for a couple months.

    Congrats, you have BIS by now.

    Waiting 3-4 months.

    WOO THATS CERTAINLY EXCITING.

    And every other bit of content that only exists for gear or tomes is completely worthless.

    Being able to work towards a specific piece of gear and knowing exactly how long it takes is great.


    The problem is that the item itself isn't very exciting because it's just another piece of "has more stats than what I'm wearing" but this has nothing to do with how loot is acquired in this game. WoW players wish they would have our loot system back because they had it from 2004 to 2016 (arguably 2013 because the last raid in MoP already had Warforged items).
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 09-16-2020 at 01:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    Being able to work towards a specific piece of gear and knowing exactly how long it takes is great.


    The problem is that the item itself isn't very exciting because it's just another piece of "has more stats than what I'm wearing" but this has nothing to do with how loot is acquired in this game. WoW players wish they would have our loot system back because they had it from 2004 to 2016 (arguably 2013 because the last raid in MoP already had Warforged items).
    See, this guy gets it. The loot can be interesting and exciting and, most importantly, *memorable* without being super RNG.

    If I say, oh... Ochiudo's Kote, Leaping Boots, Emperor's Hairpin, Byakko's Haidate, Sulfuras, Hand of Justice, Ashkandi, Talisman of Ephemeral Power... anyone who's played FFXI or WoW can probably look at that quick list and think, "ah, I remember that!" even if they haven't played that game in years.

    Now let's look at... just about anything in FFXIV since the first tier. Heck, even the Relic weapons aren't particularly notable because they're just the same thing as every other weapon. The only distinct thing is how you acquire it, and not since Heavensward has even *that* been notable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powercow View Post
    If I say, oh... Ochiudo's Kote, Leaping Boots, Emperor's Hairpin, Byakko's Haidate, Sulfuras, Hand of Justice, Ashkandi, Talisman of Ephemeral Power... anyone who's played FFXI or WoW can probably look at that quick list and think, "ah, I remember that!" even if they haven't played that game in years.
    Not only that, but when you got those pieces of gear you were excited and felt you accomplished something. I remember the sheer joy of getting the Leaping Boots and Emperor's Hairpin.

    How many times do you think people got out of their chairs and did a little happy dance or felt a feeling of accomplishment and pride when they got the deepshadow or yorha coat or aiming? How many people will still be talking about it 10 years later... You wanted to strut around town wearing them and your guildmates would even be happy for you, just as you were for them when they got a good drop.

    I, personally have not felt these things in XIV since I got the Bahamut weapons or finished my relic in ARR. Honestly when 3.0 dropped and they both were worthless I felt more disappointment than I ever had before in an mmo.
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    Kaynneth Menad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barraind View Post
    Yeah, we know exactly how long.
    A night or two for a couple weeks.
    4 hours a week for a couple weeks.
    2 hours a week for a couple months.

    Congrats, you have BIS by now.

    Waiting 3-4 months.

    WOO THATS CERTAINLY EXCITING.

    And every other bit of content that only exists for gear or tomes is completely worthless.
    As opposed to possibly farming the same content for X months and never getting the exact piece of gear you need?

    Wow such excitement.
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