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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilenya View Post
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    Judging by jobs we have, it'll likely be Healer/Caster for 6.0.
    Yes this is a serious thread, I'm not trolling, I really want another tank job cause I've enjoyed how tanking got reworked in SHB.

    I agree a healing job would be the best choice for other job cause they haven't added one since hw and it's time for another healer job but if they added another dps instead of a healer I wouldn't complain cause healing is my least favorite role, it stresses me out the most as to were tanking and dps I can feel relaxed while I play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictorTheed View Post
    I've enjoyed how tanking got reworked in SHB.
    Pardon?...
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    “Theirs really not much you can change with the MCH”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
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    Yeah, it's great. I actually decided to try and actually cleared normal and alliance raids as a tank in Shadowbringers thanks to how tanking works now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    Yeah, it's great. I actually decided to try and actually cleared normal and alliance raids as a tank in Shadowbringers thanks to how tanking works now.
    what was wrong with it before? since the content is being dragged to alleviate the injudicious with every patch
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    “Theirs really not much you can change with the MCH”
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictorTheed View Post
    Yes this is a serious thread, I'm not trolling, I really want another tank job cause I've enjoyed how tanking got reworked in SHB.

    I agree a healing job would be the best choice for other job cause they haven't added one since hw and it's time for another healer job but if they added another dps instead of a healer I wouldn't complain cause healing is my least favorite role, it stresses me out the most as to were tanking and dps I can feel relaxed while I play.
    This feels like a BAD reason to avoid having a new healer. If it turns out they've not been adding healers because people don't like it, healer mains will likely be absolutely livid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilenya View Post
    This feels like a BAD reason to avoid having a new healer. If it turns out they've not been adding healers because people don't like it, healer mains will likely be absolutely livid.
    The simple solution is to just make a healer who actually IS what people want to play lol. Most ppl I know who dont want to play healers in MMOs, want to be in armor, have a big weapon, and melee. But the moment its a Paladin, they have 0 problems healing the group. (Outside of some sort of healer anxiety) An example is in offline RPGs. Every single person who plays an RPG offline, plays a healer. They may not considered their clothed healer the main character, but they sure as heck will put them on the team and play them. So in context of a "battle healer", as long as it "feels" like a typical main character hero, and can still dish out some damage (like current healers) they wont see "healing" as something "unfun". (This excludes changes to healer DPS. Just talking about concepts)

    In short SE, stop making all healers robed casters with wand equivalent for weapons... and im sure you'll attract FAR more people to the healer role. (Yes im aware the game is built from the ground up with the idea healers wear cloth (literally has the word "healer" in the gear name) and go pew pew from a distance, while having cast bars on all meaningful actions. But thats SEs fault. It really was EXTREMELY shortsighted not to see something as basic as this.)
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    Last edited by MaraD_; 09-16-2020 at 01:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaraD_ View Post
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    Have a Like, you've reminded me of how much I enjoy Leech Healers even if that wasn't your main point.
    Gods I miss being a Leech Healer...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaraD_ View Post
    Most ppl I know who dont want to play healers in MMOs, want to be in armor, have a big weapon, and melee.
    Wildstar had a heavy armor melee healer (Medic) and let me tell you, it was miserable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeminiReed View Post
    Wildstar had a heavy armor melee healer (Medic) and let me tell you, it was miserable.
    (1) The problem with Medic wasnt its armor lol. (In the case of FF14, its easy to just glamor on some armor in this game. A WHM in armor, is still just a stationary pew pew wizard)
    (2) Healers played drastically differently in wildstar, vs the DPS oriented playstyle of 14. Theres no reason to make a playstyle feel "Miserable". Or at least, if you MUST have that playstyle, at least offer a class within the role that does NOT feel miserable. (Look at the DPS options we have, and how some are pretty janky, but some ppl love them. Then we have others that are as smooth as butter, and people prefer those jobs, solely because they wanted a less annoying job to play)

    But thats falling in line with the issue of just not making healing more enjoyable, and sticking to "mostly" a single playstyle for healing. (All the while making multiple playstyles for dealing damage, and occasionally some MMOs change playstyles of tanks too. But for the few MMOs that change up the "healer playstyle", its done far less often, and usually involves the resources of the healer, rather than anything else.(Using DPS as a comparison, where entire functions are different))
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    Last edited by MaraD_; 09-16-2020 at 05:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaraD_ View Post
    The simple solution is to just make a healer who actually IS what people want to play lol. Most ppl I know who dont want to play healers in MMOs, want to be in armor, have a big weapon, and melee. But the moment its a Paladin, they have 0 problems healing the group. (Outside of some sort of healer anxiety) An example is in offline RPGs. Every single person who plays an RPG offline, plays a healer. They may not considered their clothed healer the main character, but they sure as heck will put them on the team and play them. So in context of a "battle healer", as long as it "feels" like a typical main character hero, and can still dish out some damage (like current healers) they wont see "healing" as something "unfun". (This excludes changes to healer DPS. Just talking about concepts)
    SWTOR's operative healer back in 3.0 was a class that even I didn't know I wanted, that's how fun it was. When I was not busy throwing kolto packs at my party members, I could stealth and shiv my targets up close and personal or pew pew from afar. I brought crowd control by injecting sleeping darts on organic targets and the rez not just through the in-combat rez skill but by also skillfully stealthing out of combat and doing it.

    Basically, I had options as a healer, something that just can't be said for the current way healers are in FF14. So yes, totally agree with you there on how unfun healers are currently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.