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    Baxcel's Avatar
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    Baxcel Farshot
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    Lamia
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir View Post
    Oh? and what if someone has an internet outage or a spotty connection for 30mins? Are you going to punish them too because nature dictated they had to D/C?
    Welcome to the catch 22 of punishing D/Cers and why Square doesn't implement any. Because they'll impact genuine cases as well as those of people who want to circumvent, and there's no way to tell them apart from a coding point.

    Also, considering how rare it is to get EX in Mentor roulette anyway, leaving just the single EX isn't going to impact them much with your punishment, since chances are very high that's the only mentor roulette they're leaving that day.

    If they have the mindset to do it synced, there's PF, where they can recruit others that align with their mindset, rather than roll the dice and hope they get what they want (which will vastly not be the case.)
    teaching people to use unsync, or to use PF to find like-minded individuals to find a full party are factually good advice. Mentors have to deal with less, doomed to fail EX attempts, people who want to do synced find like minded individuals instead of getting sore that recruiting random people didn't give them exactly what they wanted, everyone wins.
    If theyre a mentor then yes.. d/c and being kick will result in a 30min punishment.. if theyre not a mentor then no they'll be just fine.. this post is about fixing unsync an mentors not punishing the rest of players.. just those who agreed to do more for the community..

    I'm assuming by your 2nd paragraph you didn't read all of my original post.. the 30min lockout is base.. it doubles everytime they do it for that entire week.. 30min on first.. 1hr on 2nd.. 2hrs on third and so on.. sure some might only get the 30min in a full week.. but if your leaving instances left an right you'll be locked out for a good bit by the end of the week.

    Sure people can use party finder.. but at the same time using duty finder you should expect to find a group that will actually attempt the fight.. not immediately leave after hurling insults or calling the fight unwinnable..
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    Legion88's Avatar
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    Baradaeg Ryssbhirwyn
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    Lich
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Baxcel View Post
    If theyre a mentor then yes.. d/c and being kick will result in a 30min punishment.. if theyre not a mentor then no they'll be just fine.. this post is about fixing unsync an mentors not punishing the rest of players.. just those who agreed to do more for the community..
    I like this idea. Maybe you should include everyone in the duty, so not only the mentor is motivated to teach but also the other people are motivated to learn.
    And the lockout should be applied for everyone leaving the duty without a clear, so lockout for D/C, lockout for kick, lockout for leaving, lockout for vote abbandon, lockout for running out of time, also double the lockout for everyone without a clear already.
    This will motivate everyone in the party to do their best to clear the fight and prepare, especially the first timers and newcommers.

    While we are on the lockout anyway, why not change the normal lockout reset also to weekly?
    /s

    Also please stop being a mentor, when you fail already at the stage of teaching people common sense and the common courtesy of the community and how it handles different content.
    This whole thread is evidence enough that you yourself don't understand what it means to be a mentor.
    If the tool doesn't work like it should you are thinking about punishing the user instead of fixing the tool.
    The better way to fix this would be to put every Extreme and Ballad and how they are called back into the "High-End Duties" section of the DF and remove them from the mentor roulette.
    But for you the mentors are just a tool that has to be fixed, but you don't notice that they are just the users and the DF and roulettes are the real tools.
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