Rework of unsynced system an mentor system

[RajNish]

the roulette fills old content including the ex trials so new players can enjoy them.. mentor are compensated with a roulette rewards and a mount they can earn.. they signed an agreement saying that they would be exemplary players an teach new players how to do that content.. if they didnt read the terms and are refusing to do the content they said thsy would do.. then they dont need to be mentors..

Then let's go ahead. To be a mentor, player need to close the savage content and teach people how to run the savage.

[M0rrigan]

the roulette fills old content including the ex trials so new players can enjoy them.. mentor are compensated with a roulette rewards and a mount they can earn.. they signed an agreement saying that they would be exemplary players an teach new players how to do that content.. if they didnt read the terms and are refusing to do the content they said thsy would do.. then they dont need to be mentors..

New players can't really enjoy ex trials. Synced extremes are fights people had to learn on release, with many wipes and constant communication, often with statics until more people learned from guides. A new player is not familiar with the battle and extreme mechanics flow because leveling up to 50 is extremely easily now with all the exp boosts. Most new players I've seen don't even react to normal dungeon simple mechanics even if you explain them nicely, and we're expecting them to react and learn synced extremes in a single roulette run? good luck with that.

[Baxcel]

You have this linked like it is something i said. I did not. Fix it.

yeah sorry.. i fixed it I hope

[HeulGDarian]

yeah sorry.. i fixed it I hope

you did for that you have my thanks.

[Legion88]

I have a better solution for this ideas.

Forget them and start teaching your new players a simple rule I learned 7 years ago in this game: "If you do content like 'Ballad', 'Extreme', 'Savage' or CoB, do it via PF. Only do DF if you are practiced enough to go for the oneshot kill."
You see, every problem solved on both sides without a patch or writing code, just teaching people to use the tools they got.
To add to that: "If you wait for a hour in the queue it's time to check PF if there is a party there for the content you want to do or to create one yourself."

Also there is no shame in saying that you don't know the duty you got queued in via the mentor roulette, not every person can remember every fight and how the strats worked.

[Baxcel]

I have a better solution for this ideas.

Forget them and start teaching your new players a simple rule I learned 7 years ago in this game: "If you do content like 'Ballad', 'Extreme', 'Savage' or CoB, do it via PF. Only do DF if you are practiced enough to go for the oneshot kill."
You see, every problem solved on both sides without a patch or writing code, just teaching people to use the tools they got.
To add to that: "If you wait for a hour in the queue it's time to check PF if there is a party there for the content you want to do or to create one yourself."

Also there is no shame in saying that you don't know the duty you got queued in via the mentor roulette, not every person can remember every fight and how the strats worked.

I mean that's fair but I also think that if your placed into an Ex trial from mentor roulette you could at least stay for more a pull or two.. especially when the duty plainly says there's new players to it

[Baxcel]

Then let's go ahead. To be a mentor, player need to close the savage content and teach people how to run the savage.

Savage isn't even part of mentor roulette.. and as I've said a few times already.. i am a mentor.. i teach an i never abandon or ask to be kicked.. i suck it up an do the content.. i explain mechanics and give advice..

Also nice goal post fallacy.. always moving the goal further an further away

[RajNish]

Savage isn't even part of mentor roulette.. and as I've said a few times already.. i am a mentor.. i teach an i never abandon or ask to be kicked.. i suck it up an do the content.. i explain mechanics and give advice..

Also nice goal post fallacy.. always moving the goal further an further away

I'm glad that you are a good mentor. I hope this will continue to be so. The mentoring system, like many things in this game, is far from ideal. For example, in other games, you don't need a crown and a reward to help people. Any player who has been playing for a long time will give you advices, teach tricks and will not demand any reward for it.

But in my memory, it has always been this way, if people want to raid and perform hard content, they organize a static group, and do not call some mentor. And if they decided on this, it means that they know what they trying to do. So they don't need a mentor, but a good raid leader.

Requiring a random person to be a raid leader and explaining all the intricacies of the fight to those who are often not in the mood to listen just because he has a crown next to his nickname ... I find this ridiculous.

[ForctyusGold]

i would like just to remove every ex trial , since firstly its hard to fill via duty finder and im not sure its the best idea how to push mentors to tell everything about fight to new players or others since they could complete it ages ago and they should remember because theyre mentors..... ugh ...
mentor systems can be pretty useful for eh filling some duties ppl queueing and they cant get there in time , so those ppl can fill it , duty pop , if something bad happen they can explain etc / im more about to change that name of this to something more accurrate , since not every mentor is helpful anyway
really tell me , you remember every ex trial mechanics when synced ? o.o

[Kuroka]

2)In order to unlock the unsync for a trail it must be cleared normally.
This will result in two changes in the player base, those being that new players will see mechincs of trails, which in a whole get repeated a lot. An secondly this will require mentors to actual learn the trails they get sent into to help with the roulette.

Scrap everything else and keep that for everyone, not just mentors, please. Also on raids n dungeons.