Party Finder RMT selling clears and items

[Shadotterdan]

Just to be clear, we're talking about ones asking you to spend real money right? and not the many parties asking for gil in return for clears?

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Just to be clear, we're talking about ones asking you to spend real money right? and not the many parties asking for gil in return for clears?

Well, considering none of them tell you in game what they are charging, might as well all be RMT.

[Bearded]

Well, considering none of them tell you in game what they are charging, might as well all be RMT.

That's the problem right there - can't report someone for RMT just based on a hunch.

[Krojack]

That's the problem right there - can't report someone for RMT just based on a hunch.

Then don't allow any of it at all. Even WoW has started to ban people using the group finder to advertise selling runs even if payment is for gold and not real money.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

That's the problem right there - can't report someone for RMT just based on a hunch.

Its simple then, ban advertising through the game if you won't talk about the terms of the ad in the game.


Problem solved.


I don't see how people can condone this, while yelling about SE not doing enough to ban gil sellers.

[Alexandre_Noireau]

That's the problem right there - can't report someone for RMT just based on a hunch.

Selling runs for gil should also be a ban-able offense.
They should let us pass RMT reports as easy for run sellers too.

[Seddrinth]

Selling runs for gil should also be a ban-able offense.

That's way too extreme. I personally see nothing wrong with providing an in game service for gil. Honestly, if you are against RMT you should encourage people to pay with gil instead of money.

[Alexandre_Noireau]

That's way too extreme. I personally see nothing wrong with providing an in game service for gil. Honestly, if you are against RMT you should encourage people to pay with gil instead of money.

No is not, because they sell gear basically. And im a crafter.
I don't see a diference between them and RMT really, is getting iLevels for money one way or another while ruining crafting.

So yeah, check the logs and also retroactively ban anyone who ever sold or purchased a run.

[Seddrinth]

No is not, because they sell gear basically. And im a crafter.
I don't see a diference between them and RMT really, is getting iLevels for money one way or another while ruining crafting.

So yeah, check the logs and also retroactively ban anyone who ever sold or purchased a run.

Well, there are many players who don't care about crafting/crafters, myself included. So yeah keep whining and making unrealistic demands. I can guarantee you anthing involving gil will never be banned. You do know SE would rather people use gil than real money any day.

[kaynide]

Selling runs for gil should also be a ban-able offense.
They should let us pass RMT reports as easy for run sellers too.

Not only is it not bannable, but is actually considered a legit transaction between players from the devs/GM point of view.

(Eg. Post from 2017 with GM being quoted as saying such: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post4500631 )

#28 on that thread:

GM:"I see, according to the logs they seem to only be selling runs for Gil and that they have it listed cross-world by default."
GM: "Selling runs for Gil is not against the terms of service."
GM: "I feel that I have everything I need to begin my investigation. Before I take my leave is there anything else that I may be able to assist you with today?"
I ask if they can request the advertisers to uncheck the option that has the listings being shown across the data center.
GM: "No I can not"
GM: "Players are allowed to do this and it would be interruption of their game play if I were to make them stop."
Me: Even though it's across the data center? (paraphrased)
GM: "That's correct."
Me: How are they receiving gil across servers? (paraphrased)
The GM then ends the conversation.