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  1. #31
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    Clover_Blake's Avatar
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    Clover Blake
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    I can't think of any other mmo where you buy cosmetics you can't wear on specific races.
    Black Desert.
    (9)
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  2. #32
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    ThatGuySaysHi's Avatar
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    Velis Azelas
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    As OP stated, I completely understand old head gear not working with the new races. Hell, that even applies to "new" gear we get thats simply just a recolor (obv), but NEW gear that comes out as either part of a raid series, event, or crossover has NO excuse to not work with Viera and Hrothgar. Same goes to Hair Styles. While I somewhat understand new hair styles not working on Hrothgar as they genuinely have a strange head mesh, new hair styles not working on Viera make Zero sense. If say Lalafell, Elezen, Miqo'te, and Aura get new hairstyles or gear, then there is no reason why SE can't give it to Viera as well.

    Don't forget to mention that modders (unpaid and arguably in some cases) less talented than Full Time Game Devs are able to make conversions for Viera (and sometimes Hrothgar) for various pieces of gear and hair styles.

    Buuuuuuut I forget that SE is a small indie dev team so I guess I should understand.
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  3. #33
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    Dyvid's Avatar
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    Seems like too many people care about glamour
    glamour is the true end game....
    (4)

  4. #34
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    Allegor's Avatar
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    In all fairness, the original plan was that Hroth and Viera wouldn't be using head gear at all, and the fact we can use some was an improvisation from the dev team who basically took pity on us. Yoshi never said "change of plans, from now on we'll make sure they can use hats too" so while it's a pleasant surprise to see a working hat/helm/hood here and there, we really shouldn't be expecting them to. That said, the compromise of both races being locked out of head gear was that they'd be getting exclusive hairstyles, yet we haven't seen anything about that either in over a year.
    (3)
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

  5. #35
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    Darkplanet's Avatar
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    Aryl Ritz
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    I am ride or die viera. But yes, I think it continues to be upsetting people cause well obvious reasons. But it also seems random which headpieces will or will not be able to be worn. Like you said. Last raid they were wearable, this raid they aren’t. But we for some reason got dungeon head pieces that work (hero’s gauntlet maiming armor full covering head piece works on viera, I have not tested others).

    But yea it’s really just an amount of work thing and resources available to do it. They probably choose a variety of different gear sets per patch so maybe in the end it can make the most people happy cause they realize they can’t make everyone happy. Maybe the solution is they need to hire more people idk, but that is difficult in itself. So it sucks... but idk they’re making the best of a bad situation I guess? Trying to at least


    But I will add. That yes. Gear/hairstyles that have been purchased or won via competitions need to be a priority imo. I really really really really really want to be able to wear my galicap again, I worked really hard for it...
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    Last edited by Darkplanet; 08-30-2020 at 03:30 AM.
    "A heartbeat without harmony
    Is moonlight without dark"

  6. #36
    Player Fourbestintoner's Avatar
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    Melodiane Valerian
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    Masamune
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    Black Mage Lv 42
    You know the only reason they are lazy with vieras is because of hroths, under the false pretense of equality, they will also never get new hairstyles, never.
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  7. #37
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Fourbestintoner View Post
    You know the only reason they are lazy with vieras is because of hroths, under the false pretense of equality, they will also never get new hairstyles, never.
    I believe we will get new hairs for viera, they said we would, it's more of a matter of when. Sooner, or later? I do think they are treating viera/hrothgar as one race, so I doubt we will see updates for one without seeing updates for the other. They also stated that hrothgar would get new faces, so I assume that those would be coupled with viera hair.

    However, when it comes to headgear viera are probably more difficult to work with, when it comes to clipping than hrothgar. Theoretically, it should be fairly easy to just plop a hat down on a hrothgar's head. So, some could probably make the argument that viera are the reason that hrothgar aren't getting as many hats.
    (1)
    WHM | RDM | DNC

  8. #38
    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Loud Jungle
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    Sargatanas
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Clover_Blake View Post
    Black Desert.
    One, a bottomfeeder mmo like that one sets no standards. Furthermore, explain the limitations, just you stating doesn't provide the full context.
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  9. #39
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    Severa Nanase
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    Jenova
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    Sage Lv 90
    I don't really use many hats anyway so I don't really care.
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  10. #40
    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Loud Jungle
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    Sargatanas
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Fourbestintoner View Post
    You know the only reason they are lazy with vieras is because of hroths, under the false pretense of equality, they will also never get new hairstyles, never.
    Agree. They're treating Viera/hrothgar as once race, so if Viera all of a sudden gets hats/helmets and hrothgar doesn't they know people will complain. This is such a basic thing that I'm surprised people look for all the excuses in the world but this one. Trying to fit a hat on an animal in real life is very hard, imagine trying to do that on hrothgar, it's like trying to fit a hat on a lion.
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