Thrilled the new housing plots will be open to all private purchases right away

[Holy_Shenanigans]

I appreciate the new housing plots, but they would not need to add them in the first place if they would re-enable housing demolition. That would solve their problems with housing. End the practice of disabling housing demolition.

[Xerkrosis]

I appreciate the new housing plots, but they would not need to add them in the first place if they would re-enable housing demolition. That would solve their problems with housing. End the practice of disabling housing demolition.

They also could enforce the limitation on players and FCs before the limitation came in place. Seeing many plots taken by the same FC is quite discouraging.

[ForteNightshade]

I appreciate the new housing plots, but they would not need to add them in the first place if they would re-enable housing demolition. That would solve their problems with housing. End the practice of disabling housing demolition.

How many people do you honestly think allow their houses to go into the demolition phase? All they'll do is stay subbed and step inside if they care enough to keep it. I recently took a break during 5.2; logging in only to cap for the week and playing other games. I probably missed the 45 day limit once. If I knew my house was in danger, I'd walk in, reset the timer and go back to my break. Most people are going to do that.

They also could enforce the limitation on players and FCs before the limitation came in place. Seeing many plots taken by the same FC is quite discouraging.

Now this is something that would actually open up houses. It's frankly absurd we have such a shortage yet they grandfathered in people with 40+ houses.

I like the current system.
I wouldn't want a instance housing.
Can't get a house, just get an apartment and wait until you can snag one.

Maybe if Apartments weren't just glorified FC rooms this would actually be a viable option. As it stands, there is really no denying the current system is extremely flawed.

[MsMisato]

How many people do you honestly think allow their houses to go into the demolition phase? All they'll do is stay subbed and step inside if they care enough to keep it. I recently took a break during 5.2; logging in only to cap for the week and playing other games. I probably missed the 45 day limit once. If I knew my house was in danger, I'd walk in, reset the timer and go back to make break. Most people are going to do that.

You would be surprised how many houses get demoed. I saw regular rotation of empty lots pop up on gilgamesh, siren, and faerie from november to february. Its how I got my houses between 3 servers in a span of a month. The demo timer does works if it left on. You remember last year when they turned it on and how many plots opened? It was total chaos for almost a week. THen they added the new wards last June. People get a plot, play with housing gardening for a few months and just leave them to rot.

[Jojoya]

You would be surprised how many houses get demoed. I saw regular rotation of empty lots pop up on gilgamesh, siren, and faerie from november to february. Its how I got my houses between 3 servers in a span of a month. The demo timer does works if it left on. You remember last year when they turned it on and how many plots opened? It was total chaos for almost a week. THen they added the new wards last June. People get a plot, play with housing gardening for a few months and just leave them to rot.

Uh, those weren't from demolition. Those were from wards 19-21 being added with the release of patch 5.1 at the end of October. That added 720 new houses to each world.

Those who already owned a house were able to relocate to the new wards. FCs were able to purchase in the new wards. Individual players were able to purchase plots in the old wards that became available when the previous owner relocated.

The personal purchase moratorium in the new wards was removed when 5.2 was released mid February. What few houses were still available in the new wards were quickly purchased by those who hadn't been lucky enough to find a vacated plot in the old wards.

Demolition opens up maybe a few hundred houses per world each year, that's it. Technically it works but it's not nearly as effective in making houses available as you and others have assumed.

Also, it's not when the demo timer is reactivated that huge numbers of houses become available. That happens 45 days after the demo timer resumes. What happened in May of last year was the demo timer resumed around the same time we had the free transfers for the data center. Most of what ended up available last May/June was due to players transferring to other worlds, not the demo timer being resumed. When we hit the 45 days after demoltion resumed, far fewer houses appeared than players had hoped. The expansion hype plus free transfers had drawn a lot of inactive players to the game who managed to reset their demo timers before they lost their houses.

[MsMisato]

Uh, those weren't from demolition. Those were from wards 19-21 being added with the release of patch 5.1 at the end of October. That added 720 new houses to each world.

Those who already owned a house were able to relocate to the new wards. FCs were able to purchase in the new wards. Individual players were able to purchase plots in the old wards that became available when the previous owner relocated.

The personal purchase moratorium in the new wards was removed when 5.2 was released mid February. What few houses were still available in the new wards were quickly purchased by those who hadn't been lucky enough to find a vacated plot in the old wards.

Demolition opens up maybe a few hundred houses per world each year, that's it. Technically it works but it's not nearly as effective as you and others have assumed.

Oh here is the Announcement. Demo timers came back on last april https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...115901bfe97a59

It may have not happened on Coeurl, but it did happen on Gilgamesh. It opened up a lot of plots immediately for us. I imagine the same thing will happen with this one. Point is the timers do more than you realize especially when they have been left of for long periods of time. You can look back in the housing thread for people looking for plots, complaining how unfair it is back from the end of april last year. People threatening to quit and such yet they are still here. So yea it did open up quite a bit and it took a couple of weeks. It was pretty chaotic.

[Jojoya]

Oh here is the Announcement. Demo timers came back on last april https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...115901bfe97a59

It may have not happened on Coeurl, but it did happen on Gilgamesh. It opened up a lot of plots immediately for us. I imagine the same thing will happen with this one. Point is the timers do more than you realize especially when they have been left of for long periods of time. You can look back in the housing thread for people looking for plots, complaining how unfair it is back from the end of april last year. People threatening to quit and such yet they are still here. So yea it did open up quite a bit and it took a couple of weeks. It was pretty chaotic.

Oh look, here are the announcements about free world transfers beginning Apr. 23 for North American worlds.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...d1ebf675536bb9

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...d8670191a57ce0

It was not demolition resuming that opened most of that the housing. It was people leaving Gilgamesh to go to other worlds that did it. Players were more than happy to give up their housing to transfer when it means they got back 100% of their purchase price, something that normally does not happen.

[Reinha]

That is literally what a lot of people are asking for. More would be better, but the suggestion of just adding some sort of gardening plots to apartments has been suggested several times. The current system is archaic and only exists to cause strife.

I have suggested indoor gardening myself, but it's not enough for some people. They would not accept tiny instanced houses just like they don't accept apartments as a viable option. See?

Maybe if Apartments weren't just glorified FC rooms this would actually be a viable option.

[ForteNightshade]

Oh here is the Announcement. Demo timers came back on last april https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...115901bfe97a59

It may have not happened on Coeurl, but it did happen on Gilgamesh. It opened up a lot of plots immediately for us. I imagine the same thing will happen with this one. Point is the timers do more than you realize especially when they have been left of for long periods of time. You can look back in the housing thread for people looking for plots, complaining how unfair it is back from the end of april last year. People threatening to quit and such yet they are still here. So yea it did open up quite a bit and it took a couple of weeks. It was pretty chaotic.

This only occurs because their system still registers 45 days have elapsed despite demolition timers being turned off. From a technical stand point, your house is in limbo. The moment they switch the timer back on, the system immediately demos any houses at the 45 day mark or beyond even if they were considered "safe" five minutes ago. This is why you'll see a handful of houses open up. After that brief window, demolition really doesn't open up that many houses. Put simply, it hasn't come anywhere near alleviating the housing shortage.

I have suggested indoor gardening myself, but it's not enough for some people. They would not accept tiny instanced houses just like they don't accept apartments as a viable option. See?

Why should they? SE bills housing as a major feature of the game and yet can't offer different sized apartments when the whole thing is instanced? Literally all they have to do is take the basement of Mediums and Larges, call them "Condos" and "Penthouse" and they'll have fixed a huge complaint people have. When F2P MMOs have figured this out better than SE. There really isn't an excuse.

[Halivel]

I appreciate the new housing plots, but they would not need to add them in the first place if they would re-enable housing demolition. That would solve their problems with housing. End the practice of disabling housing demolition.

They don't turn off demolition system out of a pure whim, you know, there's always a reason for it. They will reenable it once the situation in world is stable again.