Housing system 'pause' is making people leave

[Ogmion]

Don't really know if anyone who reads this will care, but I thought I'd share before I quit just to highlight how serious this issue is for some people.

So I had previously quit the game with no plans to return, but with the lockdown I figured it was a good way to kill time. First thing I set upon doing was farming enough to get and furnish the house I had always wanted. I ended up getting some lucky drops and earning enough quite quickly, and I was really excited... and then I found out how impossible my goal would be. The very rare occasions when I've actually seen a house on the market these days it is always swarmed by 10+ players, and usually purchased by a relocation (this continues quite a few times as everyone then swarms the house they moved out of).

The system for buying a house was rough around the edges even when it was open, but now it's almost entirely impossible to use. Every day I get to see my wallet and wonder when I might actually get the chance to use it, and that led to asking why I'm even paying to sit in limbo like this. So I guess that's it for me.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...98#post5402898

[Burado_T]

Don't really know if anyone who reads this will care, but I thought I'd share before I quit just to highlight how serious this issue is for some people.

So I had previously quit the game with no plans to return, but with the lockdown I figured it was a good way to kill time. First thing I set upon doing was farming enough to get and furnish the house I had always wanted. I ended up getting some lucky drops and earning enough quite quickly, and I was really excited... and then I found out how impossible my goal would be. The very rare occasions when I've actually seen a house on the market these days it is always swarmed by 10+ players, and usually purchased by a relocation (this continues quite a few times as everyone then swarms the house they moved out of).

The system for buying a house was rough around the edges even when it was open, but now it's almost entirely impossible to use. Every day I get to see my wallet and wonder when I might actually get the chance to use it, and that led to asking why I'm even paying to sit in limbo like this. So I guess that's it for me.

I really understand you. One day Yoshida came to Ragnarok and I asked him a question, "Do you have any plans for houses, because there is a serious problem in the game with this." They just ignored me. After that, I also recalled a bottle of wine from the "developer message" stream and drew an analogy that apparently the problem will be solved as opening this bottle) After this he just leave.
(he could not open this bottle)

[Theodric]

They're adding new houses at some point in the future. With that said, you're also playing on one of the most populated game worlds with a large amount of role-players on it. That's going to increase the already fierce competition by a significant degree.

[MPK]

There's no real good solutions. You might find some houses on a dead server though but come on you're on Balmung, one of the ERP capitals of FFXIV what do you expect?

[Burado_T]

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...98#post5402898

As before, we will someday solve it, they have been solving it for so many years, the problem has been solved since the time of the HW.

[Burado_T]

They're adding new houses at some point in the future. With that said, you're also playing on one of the most populated game worlds with a large amount of role-players on it. That's going to increase the already fierce competition by a significant degree.

New houses will not solve anything, because private houses can be transferred to new wards, and not only to guilds. Because of what many are simply perplexed. It would be wise to separate wards into personal and guild wards. Instead of wasting resources on a scholarship system. We already have all this, only separately. So far I have not met people who would find it useful.

[Shougun]

There's no real good solutions. You might find some houses on a dead server though but come on you're on Balmung, one of the ERP capitals of FFXIV what do you expect?

I mean a different housing system* would be nice. . . /shrug. I'd give Raubahn's right arm for a better one.

Waaay easier said than done of course, cost of this system I'm sure is substantial and changing all the core code to fit a new system more so (which adds logic to way we've been stuck like this, but I'm not going to be happy about that lol). I've some finely aged amaurot oak cast salt for this system and hope to never see this exact system again in any mmo I play-- "but my neighborhood's" one might say but even instanced systems are capable of that. The only thing, in my eyes, this system achieves is locking down player and developer creativity while also being a logistical nightmare (even if they add more lots getting the lot of the size of the location theme you want is additional issue, and as they add more lots for players instead of FC guess what vibe gets worse and worse... The system actively shoots itself in the foot for a feature that isn't even unique to the system) /saltbae.

*Improving systems can appear to the point of 'different'. Just to be clear, say for example they removed the weird limits on apartments in each ward, such that if you went to the building they were there and search able (no 500 in this ward and 500 in that, they are there and available, and 'it just works' lol). Then they made them upgrade-able to the point you could get large size house with a yard, like renting a cottage or something (outdoor space included). This would be 'like' a new system in my mind, but some might argue that's still apartments. Whatever floats the peoples boat but still turns into a solution.

Of course ultimately I still think SE should be dreaming much bigger than apartment upgrades- why be so hand tied (like having to use glitches when they could give players scale and position like Rift, Wildstar, or whatever else have you system), like creation magic madness (ala wildstar tier quality systems, which at a certain point this game's lore is actively swooning for). Power and creativity for everyone.

[Edax]

Housing system 'pause' is making people leave

Well, it wouldn't be a great reason to stay subbed only because of a better housing system.

[Burado_T]

I mean a different housing system* would be nice. . . /shrug. I'd give Rahbuan's right arm for a better one.

Waaay easier said than done of course, cost of this system I'm sure is substantial and changing all the core code to fit a new system more so (which adds logic to way we've been stuck like this, but I'm not going to be happy about that lol). I've some finely aged amaurot oak cast salt for this system and hope to never see this exact system again in any mmo I play-- "but my neighborhood's" one might say but even instanced systems are capable of that. The only thing, in my eyes, this system achieves is locking down player and developer creativity while also being a logistical nightmare (even if they add more lots getting the lot of the size of the location theme you want is additional issue, and as they add more lots for players instead of FC guess what vibe gets worse and worse... /saltbae.

*Improving systems can appear to the point of 'different'. Just to be clear, say for example they removed the weird limits on apartments in each ward, such that if you went to the building they were there and search able (no 500 in this ward and 500 in that, they are there and available, and 'it just works' lol). Then they made them upgrade-able to the point you could get large size house with a yard, like renting a cottage or something (outdoor space included). This would be 'like' a new system in my mind, but some might argue that's still apartments. Whatever floats the peoples boat but still turns into a solution.

Of course ultimately I still think SE should be dreaming much bigger than apartment upgrades, like creation magic madness (ala wildstar tier quality systems). Power and creativity for everyone.

I will say it as a person designing a guild. I am terrified of their work, all regions have unique walls and columns. And when they added a dividing wall (on which wallpaper can be glued) as accessories, I was finally delighted! But .. I was shocked .. The tones of the wood were brighter than those of the house itself, which hurts the eyes. And in 5.3 they added a bed with the same problem, it has a different surface grain and a different tone, although the model is from the same set. Either there people design it on different equipment with different graphics settings (I know it's funny) or they are not really interested in it at all with such negligence