$35, really SE?

[YuyuZ]

Our achievement currency is still going up after buying the previous veteran rewards. Couldn't they also provide it in the achievement store at a high price to motivate players to earn more achievements?

[Vahlnir]

Our achievement currency is still going up after buying the previous veteran rewards. Couldn't they also provide it in the achievement store at a high price to motivate players to earn more achievements?

They really don't give the achievement certificate system the love it needs. I'd love to spend what I have on something worthwhile.

[Cled-cat]

It's kind of sad we've gotten to a point where we're shocked and surprised when something is "free" rather than Mogstation.

It is really sad. I was expecting there to be a lot of pushback on criticism against the mount but I still find myself surprised by how conditioned the player-base has become to be thankful for any scrap of new content that’s included with our sub instead of shilled out to the cash store, you’d think this was a no-sub game with how militant some posters are in defending the cash shop on here.

[Zomkei]

So you agree? lol.

would it make you feel better if i went back and edited it to probably? it probably wouldn't have been implemented, in this case. most, if not all, of the cash shop mounts were only created purely for the cash shop from the team behind it. and in the case for sleipnir(sp?), i could be remembering this wrong, but i believe it came to the cash shop BEFORE the trial, but don't quote me on this as its been about a good 6 years or so.

so no, i don't agree with you, though i wish that was the case.

[Shougun]

would it make you feel better if i went back and edited it to probably? it probably wouldn't have been implemented, in this case. most, if not all, of the cash shop mounts were only created purely for the cash shop from the team behind it. and in the case for sleipnir(sp?), i could be remembering this wrong, but i believe it came to the cash shop BEFORE the trial, but don't quote me on this as its been about a good 6 years or so.

so no, i don't agree with you, though i wish that was the case.

You know what would make me feel better Zomkei?

You know what!?

Staring at your damn gif, it's mesmerizing.

I actually think we do agree, but just on entirely different scales. Probably is exactly a wording I think that would have fit very well (but don't bother with going back to edit it unless you want to, seems like too much extra effort for our casual back and forth lol, having the conversation was more fun anyways).

You think very unlikely, but 'technically, I guess' possible, I think pretty much the same to be honest but given the equation of time I could see a very unlikely can become 'actually sort of likely' which is what I tend to think of when talking about feedback with SE anyways. I hardly ever comment a desire as if I expect them to get it done in the same expansion cycle I mention it in.

Sleipnir is just a straight port from the game though which is a bit in bad taste I think, but they don't really do that often. Even with the carriage they clearly simplified the model because one of the reasons Yoshida said they couldn't at the time was it was too complex (had loads of objects, lots of curves)- clearly whoever worked on this for the cash shop had to work to make it not explode everyone's PC (wasn't just a straight port, but it was very obviously inspired by the intro scene wagon and maybe even the model base used). Where Sleipnir was just like 'yoink'. Again though I'm the fool talking here since I purchased the horse lol. I liked the way it looked a lot XD..... So weak am I... The myth around it is fun too. Still kind of hope they 'remix' him to up his desirability now that they've so many crazy mounts in the game, but even without he's a bit special to me (just think they could have more fun with the myth, and raise his sales again).

Again which is why I'm not against the cash shop but I think when they design brand new things, or particularly welcome is things from their other licenses, that those are the better choices to go into there and they should try to avoid stuff from the game itself (exception made for seasonal). Obviously they'll do whatever they want lol, but just voice a desire- if they had a list of potential new items maybe pushing them towards those items in their list.

[Seddrinth]

It is really sad. I was expecting there to be a lot of pushback on criticism against the mount but I still find myself surprised by how conditioned the player-base has become to be thankful for any scrap of new content that’s included with our sub instead of shilled out to the cash store, you’d think this was a no-sub game with how militant some posters are in defending the cash shop on here.

I'm not buying the mount. I will never buy any shop mount in any games I play. That being said, I'm glad they are offering these mounts for the people who like it and also because it funds the game I enjoy. I'm just happy with all the new dungeons, raids, trials and in game events we get from the constant patches.

[Zomkei]

You know what would make me feel better Zomkei?

dodos are the best thing this game has ever produced...

and i suppose youre right. nothing is 100 percent grounded, so my wording was a little off, though i still believe it is very unlikely as you said.

i agree it is distasteful about sleipnir, and the cash shop team knows what to target and when to release it for the best sales thats for certain. im the type of person who believes to vote with your wallet, and have never been against the cash shop myself. i've also bought sleipnir, though it was on sale, for the sole purpose of its incredibly slow walking speed. i also got the carriage for a friend who wanted it but couldnt exactly afford it.

i still stand by what i said about people taking it too far though. this was a good, albeit short, debate.

[Arielen]

americans are out here saying the 35 is too much when canadians are here paying 60$ lol

[Zeshou]

People are still complaining about mount prices? You know, these aren't necessities. I'm actually shocked we got the bees knees dance for free considering how wanted it was and they could've made a fortune from selling it.

Nice Stockholm Syndrome you got there, do you clap your hands twice everytime there's a mount on an extreme trial or a beast tribe on this subcription based MMO? They could had put those on the mogstation too after all.

[Lium]

Google BDO itemshop prices

Or STO (Star Trek Online). The very definition of pay to win.