$35, really SE?

[REPROBEAN_CHILD]

Well, BDO also has optional subscription, as far as I know.

But I wasn't talking about sub prices

[Anzaman]

But I wasn't talking about sub prices

We'd all have more cash to spend on MogStation items if SE would drop the subscription model out.

[Driavna]

We'd all have more cash to spend on MogStation items if SE would drop the subscription model out.

Don't forget about all the expansion packs we have to buy too.

[ForteNightshade]

Well, BDO also has optional subscription, as far as I know.

It is... and offers significantly less content as a result. They've had six default outfits since the game's original JP release some seven years ago. And most of those outfits are color swaps or downright ugly. Needless to say, if you want your character to look nice, you're spending money. Likewise, their entire furniture catalog is all locked behind a paywall. Designing a house in BDO that looks remotely comparable to some of the designs on HousingSnap for XIV would set you back hundreds of dollars.

Now of this covers how comically P2W PvP is in that game.

You can certainly play the game for free but you'll notice very quickly how much less they're offering as a result.

We'd all have more cash to spend on MogStation items if SE would drop the subscription model out.

Would we? Nearly every single mount, minion and glamour outfit they add through in-game rewards, events and etc. would suddenly have a price attached to them. Mogstation prices may, in fact, go up to compensate for lacking a sub now. Black Desert charges significantly more for outfits. Why wouldn't SE if they weren't generating a guaranteed income? You also have to consider what our sub fee actually covers. The only reason they're able (or willing) to release content every four months is due to our subscription. With a fluctuating income, they may opt to abandon content like maps, raids (of all difficulties), trials, gpose and all assortment of things. There's a reason FTP games update far less frequently.

[Yencat]

And here I was hoping for a highly requested mount since 2.0 would get added in game to be earnable through gameplay.
Not really feelin' the rising celebratory spirit now.

The fact that it coincides with The Rising event, celebrating the anniversary of a Realm Reborn, and every single one of us starting our journey in that carriage is just the icing on the cake. The Rising event itself putting heavy emphasis on there being things that are worth more than personal gain and the endless pursuit of more money is so ironic I have to wonder if it wasn't on purpose.

[REPROBEAN_CHILD]

We'd all have more cash to spend on MogStation items if SE would drop the subscription model out.

They're not going to. It's why we've gotten so many content patches (major and minor)

[Wolwosh]

I'm not going to buy it. It just doesn't look good at all, for that kind of money i'm expecting particle effects >_> It probably doesn't even play its own theme on top of it

[zztoluca]

Devs give free 4 person mount as a car
Community : cool, thanks, awesome

Devs add a $36 4 person mount months later
Community : REEEE, P2W, Cancel my sub brb.

[REPROBEAN_CHILD]

We'd all have more cash to spend on MogStation items if SE would drop the subscription model out.

They're not going to. It's why we've gotten so many content patches (major and minor)[/QUOTE]

Don't forget about all the expansion packs we have to buy too.

I doubt any mmo will offer a free expac on launch day

[Anzaman]

Devs add a $36 4 person mount months later
Community : REEEE, P2W, Cancel my sub brb.

I mean, they could've been reasonable with the price at least.

I could basically go and buy Nier: Automata with the same amount of money.