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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Yeah no. You are making false claims to paint me as the "bad guy" so you can feel justified in your position and then go off on some completely unrelated tangent. If you're going to use this dishonest tactic, at least have the temerity to be honest about it.
    So the last few threads that you have posted in, actively stating that house-hoarders are horrible people and that they should be punished for what they do (even going so far as to claim they're selfish and being selfish is bad, mind. Which is hillarious in its own right) are not you consistently trying to start something?

    Boy, sure fooled me.
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    Maley Oakensage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenky View Post
    So the last few threads that you have posted in, actively stating that house-hoarders are horrible people and that they should be punished for what they do (even going so far as to claim they're selfish and being selfish is bad, mind. Which is hillarious in its own right) are not you consistently trying to start something?

    Boy, sure fooled me.
    Hey, I wasn't the one here coming for a fight, merely suggesting that SE should stick to the restrictions laid out in https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../housing_land/ , and apply them retroactively. I'm also agreeable with giving players enough time to spin up additional accounts so that they can keep their holdings if they wish, or cash out without any loss if they don't want to. That means that SE should give players time to let go of the extra personal houses as those restrictions indicate that each account should only have one personal account per house.

    While not wanting to discuss the FC side of it, I also strongly desire for SE to add code for something akin to an AFK timer on houses should the FC drop below the 4 character minimum, but do it in such a way that it's not easily abusable and incentivizes FC owners to keep at least four characters in their FC (whether it's their own alts or from a different service account, I don't care which). Additionally, I would like to amend the above restrictions so that the FC house is bound to the FC itself and does not check any of the accounts associated with the FC, which means that one account can support up to three houses by itself, which is a 50% improvement over the housing limit that the restrictions list.

    Those two changes would likely free up additional housing as housing is a very scarce resource (especially on the populated servers), and I honestly doubt there will ever be a point where ward housing is going to be able to satiate the needs of the community. Hoarding housing, on the other hand, only makes the entire housing situation worse because it's causing distribution issues.

    And again, that's a perfectly rational take trying to solve a problem, and not one that's... how did you put it.... "trying to start something".
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    Catstab Mcdoggypunch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Hey, I wasn't the one here coming for a fight, merely suggesting that SE should stick to the restrictions laid out in https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../housing_land/ , and apply them retroactively.
    They're definitely sticking to them, in that the restriction is 1 personal house per account for the past 2 years, and will be for the remainder of the game's runtime. They already decided not to apply them retroactively, and they are extremely unlikely to go back on that decision. Your suggestion is made lacking the data that SE has regarding how many houses are owned by alt characters. It would not make a difference. SE will not do it.

    I used the example earlier that the likelihood is about the same as SE decided to be like WoW or Everquest: 1 character = 1 combat class. "Log off as the class you want to keep, all other DoW and DoM classes will be deleted from your characters records. If you want to play another role, level to 80 on a new character. Sorry for the inconvenience." Can you see that happening to us? All the hours we spent leveling alts? It's 100% not going to happen, exactly like your suggestion. The handful of people who own alt houses are not the ones creating a housing crisis.
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