Change The Rules For Leaving Dungeons (aka Why People Insta-Quit Castrum Meridianum)

[SenorPatty]

I rarely echo answers that have been given regarding an issue but just in case SE is looking to make changes to msq roulette and is looking to this thread for some..."inspiration":

Why people insta-quit?

-It's all in the rewards vs time. Want Exp? Prae's better. Want tomes? Castrum's better.

OP's idea

-Absolutely terrible. I'd be the first of many to simply afk and do something else. Barring that, I have the option to d/c. Either way, I can't leave for 15mins so I'm dead weight.

Forcing players to stay in an instance, regardless of reasons, is a dangerous precedence we cannot allow to exist.

[Seddrinth]

Nearly every time I have got Castrum Meridianum in Main Scenario roulette over the last few months, there is a player who leaves the dungeon before it even starts and it is becoming more and more ridiculous. Because as soon as one player quits, everyone else follows suit.

The rules for leaving dungeons need to be changed. There I am asking for a rule that I call the "Castrum Meridianum" rule. Make it so that at least 15 minutes passes before a player leaves a dungeon willingly thereby discouraging a player from leaving and that have to stay and support their party instead of continously abandoning them and making them either wait for a replacement or leaving the dungeon and forcing them to requeue, in DPS instances for a long time.

It's time that players of this game step up and help each other out. This is a game that makes you do that and if that is beyond your comprehension, then just stop playing.

There's already a 30 minute penalty for leaving and that is plenty sufficient. If people choose to leave and take that penalty, that's their right. If you are going to force me to stay in an instance for 15 minutes I'll just exit game and play another game or hop on an alt. What a terrible selfish suggestion.

[SomeRandomHuman]

There's already a 30 minute penalty for leaving and that is plenty sufficient. If people choose to leave and take that penalty, that's their right. If you are going to force me to stay in an instance for 15 minutes I'll just exit game and play another game or hop on an alt. What a terrible selfish suggestion.

While I agree that the penalty currently there is a good deterrence I feel like it should stack upon multiple offences in the same 24 hours. first time its 30 mins, second time it's an hour, third time it's 2 hours, and so on and so forth.

[Seddrinth]

While I agree that the penalty currently there is a good deterrence I feel like it should stack upon multiple offences in the same 24 hours. first time its 30 mins, second time it's an hour, third time it's 2 hours, and so on and so forth.

If you do something ridiculous like that then people will just log out isntead of leaving.

[SomeRandomHuman]

If you do something ridiculous like that then people will just log out isntead of leaving.

how is it ridiculous? if you only dip once in a 24 hour period then nothing's changed. If you just log out after your offense has stacked that much then you should reconsider what you're queing for to start with.

[Frizze]

While I agree that the penalty currently there is a good deterrence I feel like it should stack upon multiple offences in the same 24 hours. first time its 30 mins, second time it's an hour, third time it's 2 hours, and so on and so forth.

This isnt necessary. Firstly, because people dont leave that many parties to begin with. Secondly, unless something has changed, they already have an escalation in the system. After the 3rd strike, you lose duty finder access for a day. Most people dont know this, because most people dont even leave one party on any given day.

[Halivel]

Lol bet I will stay but will skip the cutscenes to make it quicker.

We could in past. We can't anymore for few reasons, and all of them are the way players acted in these two dungeons.

[Fynlar]

As much as a false dilemma as claiming the penalty for leaving is insufficient.

It is insufficient. If a penalty doesn't deter people from still doing the behavior anyway, the penalty isn't doing the job it was implemented for.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Because apparently there aren't any cases of people just going back to committing the same crime they did time for, despite the modern judicial system being considered adequate enough.

The penalty is adequate, you just want it to be perfect, which is impossible.

Come back to me when you have a solution that won't affect any innocent people (being auto-kicked because of connection problems/ISP maintenance/etc) and that just isn't moved by spite (he left my party so he must be punished, even though we got someone right away/we cleared the duty fine without him).

[Seddrinth]

how is it ridiculous? if you only dip once in a 24 hour period then nothing's changed. If you just log out after your offense has stacked that much then you should reconsider what you're queing for to start with.

You are not living in reality. People will queue for a roulette because they want to farm tombs, gil, and/or gear. If they get an instance they really hate, or if they get matched with players who are annoying to then, they will take the 30 minute penalty and leave. The 30 minute is enough of a deterrent that if it's not that bad, then they will stick it through. Once you start stacking up penalty minutes, this is what people will do- they will just log out and log back in after 15 minutes. If it becomes a choice of taking an hour penalty, 2 hour penalty, then why not just log out and let the party vote kick you in 5-10 minutes? So what you are proposing will not work at all. Plus it's stupid to force people to play with you in the first place. If someone doesn't want to be there, let them go. Stop being a Karen. And one more thing, no one will be reconsidering anything when it comes to queueing. They will queue because they want to, and if they get a bad match, they will leave and take the penalty. There's all that is to it.