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  1. #221
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    Conando's Avatar
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    Rostythgar Onasch
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogmion View Post
    You don't have to press very fast at all. The time you get for each press increases the lower it gets. You can easily pass the mechanic with a very relaxed pace.
    I did that the first time I tried it, and failed. The only thing that worked was consistently mashing several keys and left mouse click. Maybe it’s a latency thing, I have no idea.
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  2. #222
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    Ishild Hawke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conando View Post
    I did that the first time I tried it, and failed. The only thing that worked was consistently mashing several keys and left mouse click. Maybe it’s a latency thing, I have no idea.
    Input lag also doesn't help with this QTE. That also bothered me on a few attempts. I tried again last night because I was feeling pretty good, I thought I might be able to pass that QTE, but no. With a relaxed pace, even when I pressed several buttons I failed and my hands still hurt because I had still had to keep it up for so long. At the end I still had to speed up my pace and I still failed. It's pretty frustrating.

    But I don't know what else can be said about this issue. As this thread shows, people are having all kinds of issues with it. Not even only disabled people. So I just hope SE and the developers look at this and adjust it a little, if that's possible.
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    Last edited by Lhunuial; 08-18-2020 at 04:22 PM.
    "I don't know how to explain to you that you should care about other people."

  3. #223
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    Vincent Arbalest
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    I understand that people have dissabilities, and it sadden me that things like this exist.
    But cmon, there is a guys that plays FF14 with his foot, because of his arm deformation. And i'm pretty sure he would be able to find his way around it. Ask friend, familly or someone to help you. I even did it with my nose just to test this.I know its not how it should be played, and what im saying may sound harsh but the world wont always adjust to us. There are people that acomplished great things while having some of the worst disabilities ever seen. That's why i wont accept fact that people want this to be adjusted to them, instead of overcoming this problem alone. If they cant find solution to complete 15 sec of game, then i dont want to even image how they will face problems irl. And no, im not against people with disabilities, i support them whenever i can. (im doing shopping for my neighbour that cant walk)
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  4. #224
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    That is really cruel to say that, you know. My job made adjustments for me so I would be able to work, because they appreciate me as an employee and I'm doing my job well. They also have no problems when I need to work different hours because of chronic fatigue. This is expected by law where I live.

    Your neighbour is not overcoming their problem. They need your help to shop. So why do you expect us to overcome this problem alone? We all live in this world together, we play in this world together. And everything would go a lot better if we helped each other from time to time. Your attitude and stance are not helping.

    You think my family should be able to be at my beck and call whenever I play FFXIV? Sorry, but they also live their own lives with their own schedules and I live by myself. I have no problems living by myself, I am mostly able to do everything I need to do, be it at a slower pace and with more breaks.

    It is a small thing to ask to have this one minor thing adjusted, in a story mode trial.
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    Last edited by Lhunuial; 08-18-2020 at 04:37 PM.

  5. #225
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    Enla's Avatar
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arbales View Post
    I understand that people have dissabilities, and it sadden me that things like this exist.
    But cmon, there is a guys that plays FF14 with his foot, because of his arm deformation. And i'm pretty sure he would be able to find his way around it. Ask friend, familly or someone to help you. I even did it with my nose just to test this.I know its not how it should be played, and what im saying may sound harsh but the world wont always adjust to us. There are people that acomplished great things while having some of the worst disabilities ever seen. That's why i wont accept fact that people want this to be adjusted to them, instead of overcoming this problem alone. If they cant find solution to complete 15 sec of game, then i dont want to even image how they will face problems irl. And no, im not against people with disabilities, i support them whenever i can. (im doing shopping for my neighbour that cant walk)
    "I'm not against people with disabilities, but you guys just aren't trying hard enough" are two statements that cannot exist in the same space as one another. As someone with severe disabilities who can overcome the mechanics and be in severe pain because of it I don't feel very respected or supported by you or people like you who pull that condescending rhetoric while pretending to be an ally. Particularly when there are other people in this thread who do not understand what it's like to be disabled but were willing to sit down and workshop alternative mechanics that can make more people than not happy with the outcome.
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  6. #226
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    Sono Faolain
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    Spriggan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arbales View Post
    I understand that people have dissabilities, and it sadden me that things like this exist.
    But cmon, there is a guys that plays FF14 with his foot, because of his arm deformation. And i'm pretty sure he would be able to find his way around it. Ask friend, familly or someone to help you. I even did it with my nose just to test this.I know its not how it should be played, and what im saying may sound harsh but the world wont always adjust to us. There are people that acomplished great things while having some of the worst disabilities ever seen. That's why i wont accept fact that people want this to be adjusted to them, instead of overcoming this problem alone. If they cant find solution to complete 15 sec of game, then i dont want to even image how they will face problems irl. And no, im not against people with disabilities, i support them whenever i can. (im doing shopping for my neighbour that cant walk)
    Here's a thought: why people should go over their heads to finish a story trial in a videogame? They probably have enough "problems irl" as is, why the heck they must "overcome" something so they can just see the rest of the story?
    Here's another thought: world should adjust to make people's lifes easier. There's always someone doing something to make lifes of others easier. Be it food delivery, cleaning, all kind of servises. How many workers had to adjust their work so you could still get your way in the time of the pandemic?
    And not like people with disabilities ask for some special treatment, they ask for help. Which is perfectly normal thing to do. And the initial reaction to it is somehow "go bother someone else, we don't care". Really?

    RajNish already summarized all this nonsence it the thread perfectly:
    Quote Originally Posted by RajNish View Post
    Honestly, in my opinion, it’s some kind of absurdity when someone, with all the severity of judges, asking a person with a disability, how much she/he tryharding, still talking about her/his lack of effort and laziness. And for what? Just to finish story quest. Not hard content, not savage. Not to find food or money, not to save people or yourself. Just finish the MSQ, in MMO's pixel world. Really? People, what’s wrong with you?
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    Last edited by Hatfright; 08-18-2020 at 05:34 PM.
    "The world is indeed full of peril, and in it there are many dark places; but still there is much that is fair, and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief, it grows perhaps the greater."
    J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring

  7. #227
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    Anatha's Avatar
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    Ana Nuann
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    Its exacerbated the damage to my wrists to where I can no longer comfortably play the game.

    It was needless, could have made it something else like a dps check.
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  8. #228
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    Ellia Lombardia
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    Lamia
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    I understand it might seriously suck if you've been unable to pass this mechanic and can't continue the story until Square Enix fixes this but the matter can be solved by having someone else help you with it if it's a huge problem. Perhaps I was a little too harsh with my previous comments but I really hope the people having issues can get someone to help them. That being said I do love the mechanic and fight but if it's seriously a very bad issue and people can't progress then Square Enix should probably change it so that players die individually if one person fails even though it doesn't feel canon with the story. I liked the idea if one person fails then the warrior of light dies because we are all him/her but that's just me.
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  9. #229
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunafreya View Post
    I understand it might seriously suck if you've been unable to pass this mechanic and can't continue the story until Square Enix fixes this but the matter can be solved by having someone else help you with it if it's a huge problem. Perhaps I was a little too harsh with my previous comments but I really hope the people having issues can get someone to help them. That being said I do love the mechanic and fight but if it's seriously a very bad issue and people can't progress then Square Enix should probably change it so that players die individually if one person fails even though it doesn't feel canon with the story. I liked the idea if one person fails then the warrior of light dies because we are all him/her but that's just me.
    Most of us aren't in hospice or living in a situation where we /can/ get someone to help us. Nor in this COVID-19 world does it make any sense to pull in a friend and go 'hey come over and press these buttons for me!' or to give out access to our accounts to get through a /story required trial/. There are other ways they can lend that feeling of hopelessness to the fight without hurting people. A few pages of this thread have been dedicated to brainstorming solutions for just that purpose.
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  10. #230
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    I liked the idea if one person fails then the warrior of light dies because we are all him/her but that's just me.
    I mean, if that's what we're going for, why not just make it so that if anyone gets KO'd at any point in the fight, it's also an instant wipe? Or maybe instead of eight separate HP pools, they all get combined into a single pool. Pain Split, hell yeah!

    If immersion is what we're going for, I don't get why it's okay to do something like this just for the QTE but not for the entire encounter. If anything, singling out the QTE is an immersion break.
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