The removed parts of ARR MSQ didn't save any time at all

[Yuella]

You come here, you want to do raids with friends, you want to farm your gear, glamour, mounts, that's what mmo is more about.

Not this MMO

[MistakeNot]

To be honest, in my opinion real gameplay begins with level 80.

No, level 80 is the beginning of the end. The so-called endgame is just that - the end of the game. That part where you run grindy filler content to get better gear which will get obsolete in the next patch.
Some MMOs are all about running the same dungeons and raids over and over and over again. This is luckily not one of those MMOs. You can do that here too, but you never have to do it.

[SnowX]

To be honest, in my opinion real gameplay begins with level 80. In my opinion in MMO game story should be nice optional addition rather than a chore that locks you out of actual content. It's not a single player game, it's MMO. You come here, you want to do raids with friends, you want to farm your gear, glamour, mounts, that's what mmo is more about. FFXIV is really first MMO that I encounter that forces you to play it's story or pay 20 euro to get into actual content immediately.
When I first was invited to the game by a friend, I did around 20 levels of MSQ and I just refused to play further. Would it be not a skip that they gifted me, I'd not play the game at all. I'm pretty happy with the game as a right now: I'm farming raids, mounts, trials, doing fun stuff with friends and have zero regrets that I never did the story. Though to be honest: I would like to. But I can not tolerate choreful text reading with majority of cutscenes not voiced at all.
At least, like all other MMO do, it would be nice if a story skip book + class boost book would be included into full game purchase, as it is in literally every other game.

I think the game is really nothing for you then. You’re complaining about Savage, you’re complaining about Story. Final Fantasy stands for games with stories. Nothing changes, even if it’s an MMO. What is wrong with reading texts? Or are you such a person who has never taken a book and read it out of interest?

[MicahZerrshia]

Wrong is, that when I want to read something, I just go and read the book. When I want to watch a movie, I just go and watch movie. But when I want to play the game I want to come and play the game. Not want to have to read the story for few months that is not even really interesting for me to be honest. Is it a game after all or just an overpriced interactive book?
Game itself is really nice - I have played it for 1700 hours and I'm not planning to stop it any time soon, even though it has it's big downsides, such as paywalled cosmetics and difficult raids. Though resolving second problem is much less pain than dealing with the boring story.
I don't even want to imagine the amount of people that quit the game due to being bored of the story before even reaching shadowbringers.

I thought I recognized you. You say the game starts at 80 and you want to play the game and not have to struggle through story. But you also were complaining that the game was too difficult and got combative when ppl tried to give you advice or just told you to actually take the time to play the game and learn mechanics.

So I am confused. You do not want to sit through the story because you want to play the game, but you do not want to take the time into content that the game requires, aka play the game, to get the bis gear you feel you deserve. So what exactly do you want? What have you been doing for 1700 hours if you do not want to put time into the story or the content?

[MsMisato]

I already got all the bis gear I needed. The complaint that raids are a bit too difficult doesn't means I won't do them. It's just my review that they are too difficult for what they give.
That is a conversation for another thread, though.

24 mans are a face roll with the exception of TG in Orbanne before the nerf. CT honestly is just run spank the bosses in each segment and you are done even with a bunch of sprouts. The most difficult boss tbf in CT is angru manyu in the WoD. it's not as bad as you think it is.

[Penthea]

I thought I recognized you. You say the game starts at 80 and you want to play the game and not have to struggle through story. But you also were complaining that the game was too difficult and got combative when ppl tried to give you advice or just told you to actually take the time to play the game and learn mechanics.

So I am confused. You do not want to sit through the story because you want to play the game, but you do not want to take the time into content that the game requires, aka play the game, to get the bis gear you feel you deserve. So what exactly do you want? What have you been doing for 1700 hours if you do not want to put time into the story or the content?

Sounds like...they don't want to play the game? They appear to be complaining that everything is too much effort.