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  1. #111
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    The Puppets' Bunker
    Top 10 Anime Betrayals.

    Seriously though, this doesn't make a whole lot of sense anymore. 2P helped us carve our way through Machine Lifeforms in the Copied Factory only to turn out to be a fully humanoid Machine herself... and then she calls in her friends who bomb Komra for no damn reason... and then 2B shows up out of nowhere to save you from her... and then you tear up the P-Units' Bunker to catch up to 2B, only for 2P to "birth" hundreds of unskinned copies of herself a la Adam and Eve from Automata who first fight as a sphere and then an amalgamated 2P.

    What.

    2B takes 9S and leaves to parts unknown, while guilt over the bombing incident leads Anogg to run away.

    The last part of this better make some damn sense!
    Welcome to the insanity of Yoko Taro. Trust me when I say this, his games only really make sense towards the end. If anything what is going on is par the course and is far less crazy than his usual stuff.
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    Kharagal Mierqid
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    About the Pink Crystal

    I'm pretty sure this is a reference of when the entire Convocation of Thirteen got Tempered after they summoned Zoidark. The crystals show the memories they have in order of the events that happened leading up to the sundering and that group of crystals was about the decision to summon Zoidark.
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  3. #113
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    Rosenstrauch's Avatar
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    Werlyt stuff
    The town we go to is pretty sweet. If we end up going to Garlemald in the future, I hope we get a hub city like this.

    Milisandia's age was fixed, and Ricon's was revealed: 20 and 17 respectively. Just barely adults, really. I'd be more sympathetic, but I feel more sorry for Gaius losing his kids than I do for his kids dying.

    Just like Ruby Weapon, we have confirmation that Sapphire's appearance and some of its capability comes down to having absorbed a primal. And as I've said before on the topic of the Ruby Weapon, primals don't just come out of nowhere. There's a pretty decent chance that Gaius's kids were responsible for empowering their respective Weapons—though I'm not so heartless as to not feel sorry over the abuse they suffer at Valens' hands.

    Speaking of Valens, they actually modeled/textured sweat on him. And the milk drinking and cup throwing was pretty smooth, too. That's all the nice things I have to say about him—the guy's a jerk. Hope he gets a kick in the ribs or ten by the time this is all over.

    I wonder if we'll see G-Warrior in action again, or if this was strictly a one-time thing. It'd be shame if it was left to gather dust while we 8-Manned Emerald and Diamond.


    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    I heard in the new Dungeon you can find Hildibrand in it. If true has anyone manage to find his location?
    From Reddit, Dungeon poilers, natch

    If you go up to him, he has a popup text balloon saying "Where am I? ... Who am I?", which to me either adds in to the whole "incompletely summoned" thing, or could actually suggest he was summoned from the time period where he had amnesia.

    It is, of course, Hildibrand. It probably isn't supposed to have lore significance. But if it did, pulling him from a different time period is, well, the sort of weird thing that would beg for theorizing.
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Werlyt

    The Puppets' Bunker
    Top 10 Anime Betrayals.

    Seriously though, this doesn't make a whole lot of sense anymore. 2P helped us carve our way through Machine Lifeforms in the Copied Factory only to turn out to be a fully humanoid Machine herself... and then she calls in her friends who bomb Komra for no damn reason... and then 2B shows up out of nowhere to save you from her... and then you tear up the P-Units' Bunker to catch up to 2B, only for 2P to "birth" hundreds of unskinned copies of herself a la Adam and Eve from Automata who first fight as a sphere and then an amalgamated 2P.

    What.

    2B takes 9S and leaves to parts unknown, while guilt over the bombing incident leads Anogg to run away.

    The last part of this better make some damn sense!
    Copied Factory into Puppet's Bunker

    Actually it makes a bit more sense when you think of what was going on in the Copied Factory. The Machine Lifeforms inside the raid were hacked and under the command of 9S. In his native game he is a extremely skilled hacker. As 2P is 9S' enemy, naturally they targetted her and anyone with her because they did not have a choice in the matter. Had 2P not been present, the robots would have likely still attacked us but 9S would have probably been a bit more open for conversation.

    As for the boss, the Machine Lifeforms were experimenting with birth as explained in the collectables after the raid. 1 in 2B's room and 4 in the command center. As for why the boss looked like that... Yoko Taro likes to make grotesque giant women. He's weird like that.
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  5. #115
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    So a lot of Npcs have updated

    -Scions in Rising stones and extra room
    -Unikalhai
    -Role quest Npcs (Culpa included)
    -Crysterium named Npcs
    -anyone you say bye to
    -Viera sisters who govern Fanow(Whm one is leaving to go to Crysterium)
    -Bae Lugg is in Cabinet of Curiosity
    -Master Matoya
    -Rammbroes click crumpled report option

    -Magnai hasn't but what he says with what we know just makes me want to rub it in XD

    There may be others I couldn't find Lyse, City leaders still barred from seeing
    Got a location for Granson? I can't seem to find him after finishing his questline, he's not in the Crystarium, or at least not at his usual location.
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    Quote Originally Posted by purgatori View Post
    Thanks. Fixed.

    Speculation? It's spelled out pretty clearly, isn't it? After already been hinted at for the longest time.
    Speculation from players specifically based on circumstances around the player character I mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

  7. #117
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    Become what you must. Become ten characters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    So a lot of Npcs have updated

    -Scions in Rising stones and extra room
    -Unikalhai
    -Role quest Npcs (Culpa included)
    -Crysterium named Npcs
    -anyone you say bye to
    -Viera sisters who govern Fanow(Whm one is leaving to go to Crysterium)
    -Bae Lugg is in Cabinet of Curiosity
    -Master Matoya
    -Rammbroes click crumpled report option

    -Magnai hasn't but what he says with what we know just makes me want to rub it in XD

    There may be others I couldn't find Lyse, City leaders still barred from seeing
    Yeah, I was going around to whomever I could recall at two in the morning clicking NPCs and checking for updated dialogue. Giott, Taynor and Cerigg are in the Wandering Stairs, as is Cyella obviously. Lue-Reeq is with Olvara outside Eulmore. I couldn't find Granson, though.

    Phyna (the Viis sister who left Fanow) made it to the Crystarium. She's near the entrance to the Pendants, with another (non-clickable) Viis admiring a tree.

    Most of the Crystarium NPCs have dialogue about the Exarch, mostly of the "we're sad he's no longer with us, but we'll always remember his wisdom" sort. And then there's Eidith in the Musica Universalis markets, who's heartbroken over Thancred leaving.

    I don't know if this is something I missed from 5.2, but Rae-Qesh in the Cabinet of Curiosity is pondering the marvels of the world, like Ryne talking about finding a bird underwater.

    For the secondary Scions, as mentioned the ones in the Rising Stones have dialogue, and I still think Aenor needs to get timed out in horny jail. They also mentioned Isildaure and Alianne visiting Doma, and they are indeed in the Doman Enclave, at the One Garden area, with Homei.

    I don't know where Ryne (or Gaia, for that matter) is hanging out.


    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    After mulling it over for a day, my thoughts on Elidibus:
    As for his summoning of "heroes," don't feel too bad. It was later stated he wasn't doing a full summoning, but only summoning the fragments of souls that wished to "eradicate all evil" or something along those lines; presumably the whole is fine on whatever world it came from.
    My headcanon is that the heroes were "summoned" in the same way the characters in the mega-crossover games like DFFOO and Brave Exvius (and other gacha) were "summoned": simplified and only technically there, and once they're done, they get reverted back with little to no knowledge of what happened.

    The crossover events we have in FFXIV with other properties were more substantial summonings in comparison.

    I base this on how every "hero" we faced who bothered to even talk to us (as opposed to throw themselves at us with no expository banter) just mumbled stuff about vanquishing darkness, as opposed to the long dramatic soliloquies about the value of life and living as they usually do when faced with villains.


    I'd like to try some Archon loaf, just to see how bad the texture and taste are. Supposedly it requires "feats of mastication" to consume, and that's probably one of the funniest phrases I've ever heard.
    I figure it makes sense that Tataru, a Dwarf of the Source, would make a version of Discworld Dwarf Bread. (Which has been described in various ways, albeit mostly to describe how indescribable it is. "Gravel", "forged rather than baked", "highly nutritious due to the owner deigning to eat anything else rather than the dwarf bread in question" are but a few examples.)

    EDIT: Hilarious bit of forum software weirdness: I had to make sure the total number of words in and outside of spoiler blocks was under 3000 characters, while also making sure there were at least 10 characters outside the spoiler blocks.
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  8. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by YianKutku View Post
    EDIT: Hilarious bit of forum software weirdness: I had to make sure the total number of words in and outside of spoiler blocks was under 3000 characters, while also making sure there were at least 10 characters outside the spoiler blocks.
    Yeah, but then you put a whole paragraph outside the spoiler tags that achieved the effect anyway. Also editing will let you bypass the original 3000-character limit.
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  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Yeah, but then you put a whole paragraph outside the spoiler tags that achieved the effect anyway. Also editing will let you bypass the original 3000-character limit.
    Yeah. I thought the end paragraph would bypass the 10char limit, but then I was told I had too many characters. So, in my "screw it, that will do, Byregot can fix it later" mood, I cut out that last paragraph, added in the first, posted, then edited the last paragraph back in.

    Yes, I could have cut out one of the spoiler-block paragraphs instead, but that required more brainpower on the spot that I was capable of, and worse, would actually make sense.
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    In regards to that final cutscene...

    Asahi has to be the most bullied character who ever lived. It's bad enough that he fell in love with someone who never even looked him in the eye and passed over him in favor of his sister, but then an ancient ghost possessed that guy's body and gave him a special job. Not only did Asahi fail that job, if he had lived and escaped he would've been killed by what he believed to be his crush.

    And then, after all is said and done, some other ancient ghost makes fun of him, calls him a simp, and steals his bank account.

    Like, he deserves it, but damn.
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