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    It's crazy that "classically handsome" is a debatable thing.

    It's male movie star looks. George Clooney, Brad Pitt, etc. are classically handsome men. It doesn't mean they're necessarily the most attractive men alive (because that's going to vary, you've got people who like everything from The Rock in this thread and also an article indicating perhaps a preference for feminine facial features - clearly a lot of variance exists there) but the word handsome and the word attractive aren't the same word.

    Handsome men are fit and tall with masculine facial features like a strong jaw. Not all attractive men are handsome, that'd be like saying all attractive men are tall. Yes, being tall is generally considered attractive but it doesn't guarantee it. Being handsome just means they're handsome, doesn't mean they're attractive by everyone's subjective standards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    It's crazy that "classically handsome" is a debatable thing.

    It's male movie star looks. George Clooney, Brad Pitt, etc. are classically handsome men. It doesn't mean they're necessarily the most attractive men alive (because that's going to vary, you've got people who like everything from The Rock in this thread and also an article indicating perhaps a preference for feminine facial features - clearly a lot of variance exists there) but the word handsome and the word attractive aren't the same word.

    Handsome men are fit and tall with masculine facial features like a strong jaw. Not all attractive men are handsome, that'd be like saying all attractive men are tall. Yes, being tall is generally considered attractive but it doesn't guarantee it. Being handsome just means they're handsome, doesn't mean they're attractive by everyone's subjective standards.
    Of course it is, when somebody says John Cena is a 'classically handsome' man lol. I agree what we could call George Clooney or Brad Pitt 'classically handsome' men, but it doesn't mean at all that we have to have only this kind of men in the game. As I showed in my previous post, the most attractive male NPCs in FFXIV aren't 'classicaly handsome'. So it shows the need of more variety of male beaty in the character creation.
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    Last edited by Skolopendrokot; 08-11-2020 at 12:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skolopendrokot View Post
    Of course it is, when somebody says John Cena is a 'classically handsome' man lol. I agree what we could call George Clooney or Brad Pitt 'classically handsome' men, but it doesn't mean at all that we have to have only this kind of men in the game. As I showed in my previous post, the most attractive male NPCs in FFXIV aren't 'classicaly handsome'. So it shows the need of more variety of male beaty in the character creation.
    But why would we need male Viera to fill one of those roles you've already pointed out are filled by Aymeric, Emet-Selch and the like?

    Sounds like if anything I need a buff bun-Clooney for the sake of variety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skolopendrokot View Post
    especially since they realized that gender-locking is wrong.
    Seems like this is just wishful thinking since we just got two gender locked races.

    I don't care what a small subset of people 'dreamed' of playing, hot Viera dudes would draw more people than uwu bunbois and also not promote ERPs of child abuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    Seems like this is just wishful thinking since we just got two gender locked races.

    I don't care what a small subset of people 'dreamed' of playing, hot Viera dudes would draw more people than uwu bunbois and also not promote ERPs of child abuse.
    ERP will happen regardless if Male Viera look Ambiguous. Masculine, Feminine, Young, Old, Short, skinny, tall or Muscular.
    The sinful thoughts of Man (and women) will drive their minds into the darkest of places.
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    Player Veis_Alveare's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    ERP will happen regardless if Male Viera look Ambiguous. Masculine, Feminine, Young, Old, Short, skinny, tall or Muscular.
    The sinful thoughts of Man (and women) will drive their minds into the darkest of places.
    And we don't need to make that easier by handing people player characters that look very similar to real human kids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    And we don't need to make that easier by handing people player characters that look very similar to real human kids.
    We already have that golden ticket: Lalafells. While their chibi aesthetic is meant to be anything but implications of being underage it doesn't change the fact that they still look like small children to people.

    Also the fact that half of the female player models look like high-school teenagers.
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