Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Crushnight]

Anything in the Mogshop is optional to begin with, you're not required to buy anything from there so any sales made is just pure profit. They loose nothing if people don't buy anything.

Yes everything on mog station is optional but it is not pure profit you don't start making a profit until you have earned enough back for the dev time and resources cost until then its a loss, so if no one buys anything then SE would be flushing money down the toilet.

Now this is what SE has lost money wise from me, at least 1 fantasia + CE Shadowbringers which is £18.75, a drop in the ocean but it is a net loss to the company because of their decision to gender lock and i'm sure i'm not the only one this has affected how much they are going to spend on ffxiv going forward.

It is down to SE to decide if this will be a temporary loss or a permanent one but also down to them to add up the potential revenue from adding the genders are worth the cost of time/resources.

[Joven]

Yea, the same old posts that are being brought up by the same people.
Just like the same people that love to bring up "ERP", "the lore!", people that try to redefine "genderlock" and also "my immersion!" to counter people.
Im getting tired of them as much.
I mean there are both sides of extremists, and I do not support any of them.

I don't support either side myself. If they decide to release them then great, if they don't, also great. But threads like this one are pointless. The devs haven't said anything about never releasing the other genders, just that they decided to release what they could with what time they had. Making a huge fuss over it like we're NEVER going to get them before we even get the first release is petty.

I would also like to state that there is a huge distinction in the severity of argument between bringing up lore, ERPing, etc over calling a company sexist and homophibic. The latter could actually do harm to the company's image if enough people believed it while the former is just annoying.

[Crushnight]

I don't support either side myself. If they decide to release them then great, if they don't, also great. But threads like this one are pointless. The devs haven't said anything about never releasing the other genders, just that they decided to release what they could with what time they had. Making a huge fuss over it like we're NEVER going to get them before we even get the first release is petty.

This thread is not pointless Yoshi P has stated they are looking for feedback and this thread is one way to give it. I very well believe if there wasn't as much blow back against the decision to gender lock they would've left Viera and Hrothgar as they are and just moved on but because there was a much an outcry as there was (Some was really overboard the people calling the devs sexist/homophobic as the worst offenders) that they are even considering male Viera and female Hrothgar.

[Joven]

This thread is not pointless Yoshi P has stated they are looking for feedback and this thread is one way to give it. I very well believe if there wasn't as much blow back against the decision to gender lock they would've left Viera and Hrothgar as they are and just moved on but because there was a much an outcry as there was (Some was really overboard the people calling the devs sexist/homophobic as the worst offenders) that they are even considering male Viera and female Hrothgar.

Again you're assuming that they never had plans to release both genders from the start when all they really said was they released what they thought would please the most people with the short time and resources they had. Perhaps they are taking feedback to see if there is enough interest to go forward with releasing the other genders or maybe that was the plan from the start, none of us know for sure because it's not even out yet. If down the line they reveal that they weren't going to release them then sure you can be upset, but at this juncture outrage is unnecessary.

[Senn]

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I've seen some people express their displeasure that male viera and female hrothgar are not currently being implemented, but I haven't seen any outrage in this thread these past few days. That's not to say they will or won't be added. Even so, it's still in the best interest of those who want male viera and female hrothgar to leave feedback on the forum. Preferably in already existing threads lol

[Joven]

I've seen some people express their displeasure that male viera and female hrothgar are not currently being implemented, but I haven't seen any outrage in this thread these past few days. That's not to say they will or won't be added. Even so, it's still in the best interest of those who want male viera and female hrothgar to leave feedback on the forum. Preferably in already existing threads lol

It's ok to be disappointed when something you want isn't announced (I'm still waiting for bait boxes), but people are treating this as if it was intentional when it wasn't. I can see why they chose the genders they did for the initial release because when it comes to Hrothgar/Ronso then Kimari is the one who comes to mind and when you think of Viera then Fran is who comes to mind (or the Viera from Tactics Advance). Add to that the only Viera seen through every game they're featured in, including this one, have been female. If they had male Viera abundantly walking around then there would be a precedence for them. So taking that into account, if they were going to release two new races on an initial limited scale then those would be the ideal pairings for race/gender since that's what people are familiar with.

[xbahax92]

Again you're assuming that they never had plans to release both genders from the start when all they really said was they released what they thought would please the most people with the short time and resources they had. Perhaps they are taking feedback to see if there is enough interest to go forward with releasing the other genders or maybe that was the plan from the start, none of us know for sure because it's not even out yet. If down the line they reveal that they weren't going to release them then sure you can be upset, but at this juncture outrage is unnecessary.

Nobody is outraging though. The first posts you see on the first page happened because frustration, disappointment and angery.
People calmed down and many others actually take their time to create a forum account, and we all know its quite a hassle to do so. So far I've seen less hassle about people that call the dev team sexist or threaten to cancel their subs, on the other hand... people still show up trying to tell me male Viera is only good for ERP.
This thread and the female Hrothgar certainly shows great interest for those who would like to play one and players that support their friends/family.

[Crushnight]

Again you're assuming that they never had plans to release both genders from the start when all they really said was they released what they thought would please the most people with the short time and resources they had. Perhaps they are taking feedback to see if there is enough interest to go forward with releasing the other genders or maybe that was the plan from the start, none of us know for sure because it's not even out yet. If down the line they reveal that they weren't going to release them then sure you can be upset, but at this juncture outrage is unnecessary.

Yes i'm assuming but its due to how it feels Yoshi has changed his mind on the matter, Yoshi kept going on how it was the last new race to be added yet now its like lets look at feedback to see how best to press forward. From the moment they made the decision they expected people to be against it yet it feels like they didn't expect this much and are now weighing up the option of adding the genders.

[Joven]

They lose... pure profit. And from what we hear, the Mog Shop is the one source of revenue that comes back into the game while the sub money gets leeched by SE to fund other things. So XIV itself loses a lot if people don't buy from the Mog Shop. Especially since Mog shop items are:
1. one time investment that keeps netting them revenue. Mounts, Bardings, glamour, they make them once and just keep cashing in on it
2. Consumable. Dyes, Fantasia. They have long since stopped investing in the items and just enjoy the money it makes.
That's a lot of $$$ they'll be losing out from people who are upset over it, yes, even if those people are still subbed. But their sub money probably won't go back into XIV to begin with.

Then that's entirely SE's fault for not allocating the money properly. If they were using all the sub money to work on the game then there would be little to no fluctuation in profits lost for people unsubbing for this since you also have to factor in new players coming in.

[Joven]

Yes everything on mog station is optional but it is not pure profit you don't start making a profit until you have earned enough back for the dev time and resources cost until then its a loss, so if no one buys anything then SE would be flushing money down the toilet.

Now this is what SE has lost money wise from me, at least 1 fantasia + CE Shadowbringers which is £18.75, a drop in the ocean but it is a net loss to the company because of their decision to gender lock and i'm sure i'm not the only one this has affected how much they are going to spend on ffxiv going forward.

It is down to SE to decide if this will be a temporary loss or a permanent one but also down to them to add up the potential revenue from adding the genders are worth the cost of time/resources.

You're operating under the assumtion that they're intending to NEVER release the other genders, just like everone else on here is. They haven't said one way or the other yet since the expansion hasn't even launched yet.