Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Veis_Alveare]

The fact that you guys try to equate androgynous adults to children is really skeevy to me. There are cultures out there where males have more "feminine" features and they do not look like children. Stop trying to paint a whole group with the pedo brush just because you dont want what they want and its easier to get people on your side if you villainize the otherside. This isnt Tumblr.

And again before you jump on me what I want is short really buff veira so dont even try it.

If you pay attention to some of the history with the XIV community, particularly the stuff surrounding the r/ffxiv mod team, you'll see that concerns around child abuse aren't exactly crazy to have.

Every person defending the idea of uwu softboi bun guys is acting as if their opposition is literally calling them pedophiles. We are not. We are saying the thing that those people are calling for will appeal to pedophiles. We don't like that.

The idea that somehow we're going to get male Viera that are short, slim, soft and androgynous is literally moot. We won't, it's been confirmed. Please let it die, there is a 0% chance so just stop pushing it.

Lalas are cartoon characters at best btw. Their proportions are so far from normal humans that to compare them to actual children is laughable. If your kid is shaped like a lala please seek medical help immediately.

[SomeRandomHuman]

If you pay attention to some of the history with the XIV community, particularly the stuff surrounding the r/ffxiv mod team, you'll see that concerns around child abuse aren't exactly crazy to have.

Every person defending the idea of uwu softboi bun guys is acting as if their opposition is literally calling them pedophiles. We are not. We are saying the thing that those people are calling for will appeal to pedophiles. We don't like that.

The idea that somehow we're going to get make Viera that are short, slim, soft and androgynous is literally moot. We won't, it's been confirmed. Please let it die, there is a 0% chance so just stop pushing it.

Lalas are cartoon characters at best btw. Their proportions are so far from normal humans that to compare them to actual children is laughable. If your kid is shaped like a lala please seek medical help immediately.

The easiest way to describe lalafells are chibi dwarves. Or the more common method: Evil Popotos.

[Corrie]

If you pay attention to some of the history with the XIV community, particularly the stuff surrounding the r/ffxiv mod team, you'll see that concerns around child abuse aren't exactly crazy to have.

Every person defending the idea of uwu softboi bun guys is acting as if their opposition is literally calling them pedophiles. We are not. We are saying the thing that those people are calling for will appeal to pedophiles. We don't like that.

The idea that somehow we're going to get male Viera that are short, slim, soft and androgynous is literally moot. We won't, it's been confirmed. Please let it die, there is a 0% chance so just stop pushing it.

Lalas are cartoon characters at best btw. Their proportions are so far from normal humans that to compare them to actual children is laughable. If your kid is shaped like a lala please seek medical help immediately.

As someone who survived CSA Pedophiles will use anything. Literally anything. You should be concerned about pedophiles in most things because they are there and they know how to act normal. An androgynous adult will not bring them because they are already here and already using what the game has for whatever they want. Ive seen enough art to know what, not even roe are safe.

Also Ive said nothing about lalafel. I do know you cant post lewd art on them about discord though, so if you want to do that take it up with them, though I am going to look at you suspect now, cause that can also be seen as a red flag.

Also I never said anyone thought I was a pedo for wanting short buff males lol, that was for people would try to call me one just because Im on the side of just let people want androgynous adults if they want. We dont even know if they will happen.

[Amnmaat]

You already have 2 androgynous options, one tall one short:

Male Miqo'te
Male Elezen

Anything skinnier than that is a teenager. I think Yoshida agrees with me.

[Veis_Alveare]

We dont even know if they will happen.

We do know, though. It was addressed already - it won't be happening.

Thank god.

[Skolopendrokot]

Since you seem to be obsessed with male miqo'te, I'll give you a comparison to midlander.

In terms of height miqo'te have a nice range. They go from anywhere from very tiny at minimum to about averege. Midlanders go from pretty much average to above average.

For the musculature and body shape; midlander is the epitome of an "averege joe" in pretty much every way. Not overly built, but not overly slender. Miqo'te are more top-heavy but follow a similar shape. They have wider shoulders and chests but their legs are a touch slimmer. They have no musculature adjustment and they're locked to around 50 on the slider when compared to midlander's freedom on it.

Midlander has the most faces and each face pretty much has their own flavor to play with. Miqo'te have 4 faces and each have a very defined characteristic: there's an averege face, an old/mature face, a youthful face, and a psudo mature face.

I like to think I now made it clear what I'd like to see: A male with a below averege build with a fairly generous height slider to allow towards the lower end of miqo'te up to the upper middle of midlander. Naturally I'd like there to be some face variety so that it can appeal to more than one niche.

Then as far as shoehorning goes we already know what Yoshi P pictures for male viera thanks to an interview sometime back and his vision is what would most likely happen were they to actually do so. So debating how we think they should look is really just a pipe dream and a half.

But why are you talking about 'them'? I've said my opinion a few times and made it clear enough to see it doesn't have anything in common with that. If anyone wants male Vieras to look like Feol boys, it would be just as uncomfortable as looking at AuRa females with their mates (well, basically any mates, since some of them look like very young teenage girls). I've never stated that this is something I want, so please do not do this kind of comparison.

Oops, it looks like I quited the wrong person. I meant SturmChurro.

[SomeRandomHuman]

But why are you talking about 'them'? I've said my opinion a few times and made it clear enough to see it doesn't have anything in common with that. If anyone wants male Vieras to look like Feol boys, it would be just as uncomfortable as looking at AuRa females with their mates (well, basically any mates, since some of them look like very young teenage girls). I've never stated that this is something I want, so please do not do this kind of comparison.

Your opinion has the same value as mine does, so I advise against trying to put yours above others'.

I also never stated anything about them being underaged "feol boys" as you call them. You're the one twisting things and putting words in others' mouths. A below average build does not automatically mean teenager. The point of reference for "average" is midlander.

So by your logic Yoshi P is a feol boy since he is of a smaller body type. I'm pretty sure everyone here knows Yoshi P is very clearly an adult male.

[Skolopendrokot]

Your opinion has the same value as mine does, so I advise against trying to put yours above others'.

I also never stated anything about them being underaged "feol boys" as you call them. You're the one twisting things and putting words in others' mouths. A below average build does not automatically mean teenager. The point of reference for "average" is midlander.

So by your logic Yoshi P is a feol boy since he is of a smaller body type. I'm pretty sure everyone here knows Yoshi P is very clearly an adult male.

I didn't want to quote your post, I meant StormChurro's one. I'm sorry, jsut clicked the wrong one.

[SomeRandomHuman]

I didn't want to quote your post, I meant StormChurro's one. I'm sorry, jsut clicked the wrong one.

Rip in piassa! xDDD

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Lol, this thread became fun to read all of a sudden.