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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Tons of casual players do EX fights.
    We have a very different definition of casual then.

    Also this was how the Raid finder was introduced:

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    Players need only have access to at least one Savage raid in order to unlock the Raid Finder. In the case of Alexander: Midas (Savage), players must speak with Lightkix Eyesfixed in the Dravanian Hinterlands (X:20.6 Y:26.1). Please keep in mind, however, that the Raid Finder will become inaccessible when the next series of Savage raids is introduced. At that time, players must unlock the next Savage raid to gain access to the Raid Finder.
    Maybe it's not exactly the same anymore but I've kept the impression that raid finder isn't casual content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabrenn View Post
    We have a very different definition of casual then.

    Also this was how the Raid finder was introduced:



    Maybe it's not exactly the same anymore but I've kept the impression that raid finder isn't casual content.
    Basing how raidfinder was introduced off of the tier following the Savage tier that broke the back of the raiding community isnt the best way to do it imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Basing how raidfinder was introduced off of the tier following the Savage tier that broke the back of the raiding community isnt the best way to do it imo.
    You say that, but it's still very much only showing the latest extreme trial and current savage / ultimate. Don't see any hard mode or normal modes in raid finder.

    I mean I could be completely off and they start shoving all the new content in raid finder but that's really weird to me? Why would casual content need a First Phase, Practice, Clear option?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabrenn View Post
    Maybe it's not exactly the same anymore but I've kept the impression that raid finder isn't casual content.
    It's probably not the same anymore. While the note you quoted talks a little about Savage raids being included in the raid finder, you'll note that it was not exclusively for that purpose, and hasn't been exclusively high-end content. "Casual" content doesn't mean there can't be 23 other people playing with you in an instance.

    "The Raid Finder allows players to register for instanced raids without having to form a party. By selecting a desired raid and matching requirements, players will be matched automatically with other players spanning multiple Worlds within the same data center."
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    It's probably not the same anymore. While the note you quoted talks a little about Savage raids being included in the raid finder, you'll note that it was not exclusively for that purpose, and hasn't been exclusively high-end content. "Casual" content doesn't mean there can't be 23 other people playing with you in an instance.

    "The Raid Finder allows players to register for instanced raids without having to form a party. By selecting a desired raid and matching requirements, players will be matched automatically with other players spanning multiple Worlds within the same data center."
    Oh really?

    source: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/game_...d_maincommands

    Challenge the latest high-level raids. Adjustable search settings allow for solo players or parties under the minimum member requirements to be matched with players with the same goals.
    * This feature is unlocked after progressing to a certain point.
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