Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[SomeRandomHuman]

Shorter and skinnier than male Elezen is basically Alphinaud.

Except it's not? There's plenty of men out there with a build smaller than elezen in height and bulk that isn't child-like.

[Amnmaat]

Except it's not? There's plenty of men out there with a build smaller than elezen in height and bulk that isn't child-like.

That would make them smaller than female Viera. Last thing we need is a repeat of male Au ra female Au ra demorphism. Skinnier than Elezen would start to look like a teenager.
Goddamn, I didn't think I'd have to bring this back haha

[SomeRandomHuman]

That would make them smaller than female Viera. Last thing we need is a repeat of male Au ra female Au ra demorphism. Skinnier than Elezen would start to look like a teenager.
Goddamn, I didn't think I'd have to bring this back haha

I fail to understand the mentality that a jungle warrior MUST be this large built ultra buff male. If you look at tribal folk in the real world they look more like Midlander males than a lot of what I've seen proposed.

And a classic thing. "They'll look like a teenager." Last I check not all small chested women look like teenagers.

[Amnmaat]

I fail to understand the mentality that a jungle warrior MUST be this large built ultra buff male. If you look at tribal folk in the real world they look more like Midlander males than a lot of what I've seen proposed.

Western "jungle people" are mostly extinct. We have no real idea what they looked like in terms of muscles before european invasions; what you see in disney movies is just myth and fantasy. The ones in Afrika however were buff as hell.
Ultimately this isn't about the real world, this is about how skinny male Elezen are already, skinnier than that is teenage territory, and you know this is true. And you make it worse when you say you want them to be shorter than male Elezen.

Last I check not all small chested women look like teenagers.

Yes they do unless they're old.

[SomeRandomHuman]

Western "jungle people" are mostly extinct. We have no real idea what they looked like in terms of muscles before european invasions; what you see in disney movies is just myth and fantasy. The ones in Afrika however were buff as hell.
Ultimately this isn't about the real world, this is about how skinny male Elezen are already, skinnier than that is teenage territory, and you know this is true. And you make it worse when you say you want them to be shorter than male Elezen.


Yes they do unless they're old.

I mean, height has no bearing on age and you know this is true.

If they fixed Elezen's weird proportions I wouldn't have any issues with then. I work with people taller than elezen and their necks are shorter still.

Honestly if they just did a male with midlander/miqo'te height with the leaner build that they tried for with elezen I'd be a happy camper.

The fact of the matter is we have an oddly large gap between male builds in 2 spots: From Miqo'te to Lalafell and Highlander To hrothgar.

[Amnmaat]

If they fixed Elezen's weird proportions I wouldn't have any issues with then. I work with people taller than elezen and their necks are shorter still.

Honestly if they just did a male with midlander/miqo'te height with the leaner build that they tried for with elezen I'd be a happy camper.

[SomeRandomHuman]

I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't be happy if Male viera ended up being really feminine and cutesy, but I just know that is pretty much not happening.

A while back in the thread someone photoshop'd a miqo'te face onto elezen and fixed the odd body proportions and I thought that would be perfect for male viera. Obviously I think they need to have some face variety regardless of what they go with.

[wereotter]

The fact of the matter is we have an oddly large gap between male builds in 2 spots: From Miqo'te to Lalafell and Highlander To hrothgar.

Lalafel to Miquote, sure. But the rest of the male races are on a pretty even curve, and the height disparity between Lala and the next race is still extreme in the female races.



Viera weren't created in female races to fill a height gap, though, they were created to reflect how they look in FFXII, and while they do make the curve for female races more even between the Roegadyn and the Elezen, I don't recall anyone saying they must be that tall to fill that gap in female heights, so male heights shouldn't be the reason one race is a specific height.

BUT if we are looking to even out curves, there are two spots to fill in. A height between midlander and highlander, and a height between Au Ra and Roegadyn as the rest are fairly even. Given what little has been said about the vision of what male Viera would have looked in if implemented, we'd more likely see it fit about between the Elezen and Highlander races, just like they are with the ladies, or if filling a gap, between Au Ra and Roegadyn height (if the added ears on top of that don't cause a problem)

[Yencat]

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Other than Lalafell -> Everyone else there's really no gaps as such that aren't accounted for by the height slider, there would be if you could only be min-max height though.

Side note but I never realized female Roegadyn had such a huge range between min and max compared to everyone else, a full 30cm!

[SturmChurro]

Western "jungle people" are mostly extinct. We have no real idea what they looked like in terms of muscles before european invasions; what you see in disney movies is just myth and fantasy. The ones in Afrika however were buff as hell.
Ultimately this isn't about the real world, this is about how skinny male Elezen are already, skinnier than that is teenage territory, and you know this is true. And you make it worse when you say you want them to be shorter than male Elezen.

I don't know what you mean by "western jungle people", but there are most certainly still people all over the world who live in jungles, or rainforests, etc.. Such as untouched south american tribes, or others in asia, etc. It isn't that hard to find at all what they look like online. With numerous documentaries, etc. for decades. Then again, I think you actually know this.