The HORRENDOUS State of Housing

[Ranaku]

Instanced housing would do more harm in my opinion than it would fix stuff. Sure the instanced housing would give everyone their plot but i learned in wildstar that this isn't really the greatest way. Ofc it's nice to build as you wish but at the end the housing system we have here in XIV is based on a specific feature, it's limitied and to show off what you have. And for that reason it needs to be "open" or as we have it now "semi-open" so others players are forced to see other players houses, somehow.

And i think the housing system is just fine as it is, it is exactly what it wants to be and the devs go even further and for all that don't want to hunt (as far as i heard a great deal in the asian community) for plots literally everyone can get a apartment and they already talked about us being able to upgrade (?) the apartments someday.

For the asian market this system is just right, it's hard and grindy and it's a achievement to get a house and you can show off at the end of the day. Maybe our western mentality isn't made for that and we want it all for free but tbh it is not the main feature of the game and it is exactly what it wants to be, exclusive and grindy.

So i don't know why people always cry so much about the housing system. If you don't like cucumbers then don't buy them. Play something else that suits your wishes more and don't try to force the cucumber seller to change cuz you like eggplants more.

[kaynide]

the housing system we have here in XIV is based on a specific feature, it's limitied and to show off what you have. And for that reason it needs to be "open" or as we have it now "semi-open" so others players are forced to see other players houses, somehow.

For this exact reason I would gladly give up my 3 personal houses, my FC large and my wife’s house for instanced housing.

The entire notion of “I have this thing which is artificially scarce that you plebes will probably never get” mixed with “I need other people to see my artificial achievements“ is at best, toxic.

My house is for my own insanity/decorating itch- if anything I would love to NOT see the eyesores that are my neighbors.

Even lore-wise there is just no reason the warrior of light should be denied a house. We spent blood sweat and tears fighting wars and rebuilding entire nations. We have the coin to practically buy an entire town, yet no one will build us a house because “reasons”?

[Jojoya]

Instanced housing would do more harm in my opinion than it would fix stuff. Sure the instanced housing would give everyone their plot but i learned in wildstar that this isn't really the greatest way. Ofc it's nice to build as you wish but at the end the housing system we have here in XIV is based on a specific feature, it's limitied and to show off what you have. And for that reason it needs to be "open" or as we have it now "semi-open" so others players are forced to see other players houses, somehow.

And i think the housing system is just fine as it is, it is exactly what it wants to be and the devs go even further and for all that don't want to hunt (as far as i heard a great deal in the asian community) for plots literally everyone can get a apartment and they already talked about us being able to upgrade (?) the apartments someday.

For the asian market this system is just right, it's hard and grindy and it's a achievement to get a house and you can show off at the end of the day. Maybe our western mentality isn't made for that and we want it all for free but tbh it is not the main feature of the game and it is exactly what it wants to be, exclusive and grindy.

So i don't know why people always cry so much about the housing system. If you don't like cucumbers then don't buy them. Play something else that suits your wishes more and don't try to force the cucumber seller to change cuz you like eggplants more.

But it's not grindy, nor was it ever intended to be grindy.

If SE had wanted to it to retain some sort of grindy prestige factor, they would have never expanded from the original 5 wards without subdivisions to the current 21 with subdivisions. They would have never reduced purchase prices to a fraction of their original. They wouldn't have added relocation, instead forcing players to start from scratch if they wanted to live in a different location.

You've got some warped idea of what housing is supposed to be.

No one is getting a better game experience by being forced to stare at another player's Paissa house. Instanced doesn't mean others can't visit. I wander into random apartments frequently to see the creative ways players use small spaces. I don't get any sort of preview, I just walk in out of curiosity assuming the apartment is open to visitors. If we had instanced house plots, I'd be doing the same thing with them.

If you feel a need to show off your house, then invite others to come visit it. Considering how empty wards are even in the best of times, that's a better way to make certain your house gets seen than relying on almost non-existent foot traffic to do it.

[MsQi]

But it's not grindy, nor was it ever intended to be grindy.

If SE had wanted to it to retain some sort of grindy prestige factor, they would have never expanded from the original 5 wards without subdivisions to the current 21 with subdivisions. They would have never reduced purchase prices to a fraction of their original. They wouldn't have added relocation, instead forcing players to start from scratch if they wanted to live in a different location.

You've got some warped idea of what housing is supposed to be.

No one is getting a better game experience by being forced to stare at another player's Paissa house. Instanced doesn't mean others can't visit. I wander into random apartments frequently to see the creative ways players use small spaces. I don't get any sort of preview, I just walk in out of curiosity assuming the apartment is open to visitors. If we had instanced house plots, I'd be doing the same thing with them.

If you feel a need to show off your house, then invite others to come visit it. Considering how empty wards are even in the best of times, that's a better way to make certain your house gets seen than relying on almost non-existent foot traffic to do it.

Some games that have instanced housing, like SWTOR (one of the least creative decorating systems) and RIFT (One of the most creative) have a listing system that allows other players to come visit and upvote your house. It's been a while, but I think the SWTOR lists were based on upvotes, and the RIFT system allowed you to manually list your dimensions ocasionally, so you get pushed to the top temporarily. THis form memory from a few years back.