The HORRENDOUS State of Housing

[SamSmoot]

I'm glad I can't stand being in this game's houses and having my camera constantly pushed in to the nausea zone. It completely removes any desire for me. Now, if I could use a plot entirely for farming, with no house,then I'd be interested.

[Ihaf_Frethyme]

Oh gods, I came to the general discussion forum to escape this chocobo dung. D':

And yet here you are...

You can suggest apartments until the crows come home to roost, but no one's gonna listen because they want gArDeNiNg.

That's not at all why I want a house nor why this idea NEEDS to be implemented. Instanced housing is not going to fix the issue either so don't even start that argument. This issue is that you need to spend multiple hours (or get lucky AF) to even stand a chance at getting a house. THAT is the issue that needs to be resolved. If they wanted to do instanced housing they'd have to wipe EVERYONE's house and redo all of the wards. Or just tweak how the houses are purchased; which one is easier?

[Ihaf_Frethyme]

There is quite a difference in removing quests than making a whole new housing system.

A whole new housing system would be instanced housing, not adding a raffle draw option to placards with a few textboxes.

[Vahlnir]

A whole new housing system would be instanced housing, not adding a raffle draw option to placards with a few textboxes.

Yep. A raffle just adds more RNG into the mix, and more competition. In the end, the housing system would be in worse shape than it is already so a raffle would solve absolutely nothing.

[Awha]

Yep. A raffle just adds more RNG into the mix, and more competition. In the end, the housing system would be in worse shape than it is already so a raffle would solve absolutely nothing.

To be fair it does solve the issue of people endlessly clicking because they personally they feel the need to do so to get a house.

Granted I do not think people should camp out for plots, but a lottery system would allow them to not feel the need to endlessly click for a plot. So for the most part it would solve the issue some people have with our housing system. Though I do agree a lottery system is a meh idea at best and just trades one form of inadequate distribution method for another.

[Jojoya]

Instanced housing is not going to fix the issue either so don't even start that argument.

Why do you feel instanced housing won't fix anything? It has worked very successfully in other games.

Instanced housing means no more hard limit on how many house plots there can be since they would no longer occupy a static spot on the world servers full time, instead only loading on instance servers when a player wants to enter the plot.

Instanced housing means no more demolition since everyone can have a house plot.

Instanced housing means no more competing against other players for your dream plot. Everyone could pick the plot layout they want from the options SE makes available.

Instanced housing means every character on an account could have a house plot. You can only be playing one character per account at a time so that's only one spot on the instance servers you could be using at a time.

If SE can manage to solve the problem of adding dynamic weather conditions to instances, every player could have access to intercross gardening. If they can't, they could create a new flower pot with multiple planting slots so players could at least grow things if not crossbreed.

What problems do you see with instanced housing that you feel it wouldn't fix anything?

[Ranaku]

Instanced housing would do more harm in my opinion than it would fix stuff. Sure the instanced housing would give everyone their plot but i learned in wildstar that this isn't really the greatest way. Ofc it's nice to build as you wish but at the end the housing system we have here in XIV is based on a specific feature, it's limitied and to show off what you have. And for that reason it needs to be "open" or as we have it now "semi-open" so others players are forced to see other players houses, somehow.

And i think the housing system is just fine as it is, it is exactly what it wants to be and the devs go even further and for all that don't want to hunt (as far as i heard a great deal in the asian community) for plots literally everyone can get a apartment and they already talked about us being able to upgrade (?) the apartments someday.

For the asian market this system is just right, it's hard and grindy and it's a achievement to get a house and you can show off at the end of the day. Maybe our western mentality isn't made for that and we want it all for free but tbh it is not the main feature of the game and it is exactly what it wants to be, exclusive and grindy.

So i don't know why people always cry so much about the housing system. If you don't like cucumbers then don't buy them. Play something else that suits your wishes more and don't try to force the cucumber seller to change cuz you like eggplants more.

[kaynide]

the housing system we have here in XIV is based on a specific feature, it's limitied and to show off what you have. And for that reason it needs to be "open" or as we have it now "semi-open" so others players are forced to see other players houses, somehow.

For this exact reason I would gladly give up my 3 personal houses, my FC large and my wife’s house for instanced housing.

The entire notion of “I have this thing which is artificially scarce that you plebes will probably never get” mixed with “I need other people to see my artificial achievements“ is at best, toxic.

My house is for my own insanity/decorating itch- if anything I would love to NOT see the eyesores that are my neighbors.

Even lore-wise there is just no reason the warrior of light should be denied a house. We spent blood sweat and tears fighting wars and rebuilding entire nations. We have the coin to practically buy an entire town, yet no one will build us a house because “reasons”?

[Miminming]

because Instanced housing is basically apartment with garden, some people say yes that's all they want, but if both Instanced housing and shared instanced exist people will again complain the lack of shared instaced plot, why? because they want the best for them.

a LOT of people say they don't want apartment because they want gardening but once they got a house plot they never touch gardening, it's just an excuse. apartment is good enough as it is but people just never stopping wanting more.

[kaynide]

because Instanced housing is basically apartment with garden, some people say yes that's all they want, but if both Instanced housing and shared instanced exist people will again complain the lack of shared instaced plot, why? because they want the best for them.

a LOT of people say they don't want apartment because they want gardening but once they got a house plot they never touch gardening, it's just an excuse. apartment is good enough as it is but people just never stopping wanting more.

I actually just don’t like apartments, in real life either. I wanted a yard with a pool, on the oceanfront. And a deck. Couldn’t care less about gardening personally.