The HORRENDOUS State of Housing

[Puremallace]

If you're so new, why are you looking for a house so earnestly?
There's a lot of other things to focus on first, imo.

Your idea also goes against the grain of their general programming. People are free to suggest things, and obviously SE could program anything, but there's also the realistic idea of how much work they are willing to put into a system that's already established. Big drastic changes likely aren't going to happen. We're more likely to get a new housing district with full ward count than a change to some lotto system.

Housing is not even an option for anyone new to this so stop kidding yourself. After I saw the system and the sheer grind fest of clicking to get a plot I stopped caring immediately and realized that is just not a feature that exist in FF14. When people ask me if FF14 has housing I say no because I would be lying to say that it does. No reasonable person can look at this mess and think it is remotely working as intended.

It was a nice system designed FOR A MUCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH smaller player base. This is very poorly implemented for any MMO with more then 50,000 people playing. It is just silly how poorly thought out this is. The entire system is designed to keep RMT gil sellers in business.

The honest to god easiest way to get a house in FF14 is to goto an outside RMT side, pay real money then have them give you a house that they own. It is naive to believe this is not a system being HEAVILY exploited by RMT sellers.

[MsMisato]

Housing is not even an option for anyone new to this so stop kidding yourself. After I saw the system and the sheer grind fest of clicking to get a plot I stopped caring immediately and realized that is just not a feature that exist in FF14. When people ask me if FF14 has housing I say no because I would be lying to say that it does. No reasonable person can look at this mess and think it is remotely working as intended.

It was a nice system designed FOR A MUCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH smaller player base. This is very poorly implemented for any MMO with more then 50,000 people playing. It is just silly how poorly thought out this is. The entire system is designed to keep RMT gil sellers in business.

The honest to god easiest way to get a house in FF14 is to goto an outside RMT side, pay real money then have them give you a house that they own. It is naive to believe this is not a system being HEAVILY exploited by RMT sellers.

Honestly this is the worst time to try and even get a home. WIth the Demo timer being off, finding a home will be down right a PITA. The plots you do see open up is from people deleting, transferring or having the character's perma banned. Same thing happened before in 2018. They turned the demo timer off, and it was turned on spring last year than a month and half later boom, all these plots. then those filled. then they added the wards. There are not going to add any additional wards to the current ones until the timer is turned back on. Thats they way they have been going about it from what I can tell.

Personally I think they should base price off server pop as they did initially.

[Jojoya]

Housing is not even an option for anyone new to this so stop kidding yourself.

Stop kidding yourself that it's not.

Apartments are housing. There is absolutely nothing stopping a player from getting an apartment as long as they're Second Lieutenant in their GC and have 500k gil. There are plenty of apartments on every world, even the congested ones.

Is a house more desirable? Sure. But even when getting a house is difficult, every player still has access to housing.

[Penthea]

Stop kidding yourself that it's not.

Apartments are housing. There is absolutely nothing stopping a player from getting an apartment as long as they're Second Lieutenant in their GC and have 500k gil. There are plenty of apartments on every world, even the congested ones.

Is a house more desirable? Sure. But even when getting a house is difficult, every player still has access to housing.

The problem is there is a massive gap in the quality of content that houses and apartments give. Apartments are just fc rooms with a chocobo stable.

If apartments could be upgraded to be bigger, have extra floors, a small outdoor space (balcony or penthouse) to do gardening and outdoor decoration, and if fcs could purchase them and use a workshop there then the overall community would be a lot happier with housing in general. If things were like that then players would have access to the same features regardless of whether they own an apartment or house.

Of course there would still be players who would prefer a house, and understandably so, but they could no longer complain that they're locked out of cross planting, fc workshop and have such a tiny space for furnishing compared to a house.

Not to mention that those sort of apartment upgrades would be a great gil sink, which the game is in dire need of. I would also like to see similar upgrades for houses. No reason why we can't, for example, get a second basement. Well aside from server limitations of course

[Jojoya]

The problem is there is a massive gap in the quality of content that houses and apartments give. Apartments are just fc rooms with a chocobo stable.

If apartments could be upgraded to be bigger, have extra floors, a small outdoor space (balcony or penthouse) to do gardening and outdoor decoration, and if fcs could purchase them and use a workshop there then the overall community would be a lot happier with housing in general. If things were like that then players would have access to the same features regardless of whether they own an apartment or house.

Of course there would still be players who would prefer a house, and understandably so, but they could no longer complain that they're locked out of cross planting, fc workshop and have such a tiny space for furnishing compared to a house.

Not to mention that those sort of apartment upgrades would be a great gil sink, which the game is in dire need of. I would also like to see similar upgrades for houses. No reason why we can't, for example, get a second basement. Well aside from server limitations of course

I know there's a big difference but it doesn't change that all players who meet the minimum purchase requirements have access to housing despite what the person I was quoting claims. They can get an apartment while they wait for a house to become available.

It's not that different from someone trying to get their first place in real life - you're going to settle for what you can get, even if it's cheap and small, until something better becomes available within your budget.

What's rather sad is too many players won't even give apartments a fair chance because of the way other players trash talk about them. There's quite a bit you can do with apartments if you just give them a try. I've got apartments and FC rooms on my various alts that have living room, kitchen/dining room, bedroom, bathroom and sometimes an extra room (a library in one, an arts and crafts loft in another) all in a single apartment without feeling massively cramped. My apartment for this character has been designed like a real life tiny house with a "window" opening onto an outdoor view made with the planter trees, Verdant Paritions and Carpets of Flowers. Other apartments and FC rooms I have themed for different purposes.

Yes, we need improvements to the housing system so any player or FC that wants a house can get one. But at least players could give apartments a real chance while they're waiting for SE to add more houses (hopefully through Isghgard Restoration during the last patch of the expansion).

[EtherRose]

There are better ways to take care of the housing system that were posted in previous threads. Implementing a RNG system for housing is the worst idea IMO.

[Ihaf_Frethyme]

There are better ways to take care of the housing system that were posted in previous threads. Implementing a RNG system for housing is the worst idea IMO.

It already is RNG based AND ping based. This idea is perfect, find 1 problem with it and I'll shoot it down.

[EtherRose]

It already is RNG based AND ping based. This idea is perfect, find 1 problem with it and I'll shoot it down.

No. Just because you aren't able to log-on at certain times due to work, etc. or log-on quick enough does not make it RNG. The idea you are portraying IS an actual implementation of RNG.

[Ihaf_Frethyme]

No. Just because you aren't able to log-on at certain times due to work, etc. or log-on quick enough does not make it RNG. The idea you are portraying IS an actual implementation of RNG.

So, Random Number Generation of seconds until it can be purchased isn't RNG? Are you sure about that?

[NanaWiloh]

It already is RNG based AND ping based. This idea is perfect, find 1 problem with it and I'll shoot it down.

Rng combined with the number of players on some worlds trying to get homes. Add in how often and rare homes are on some worlds like Balmung, Depending on your luck you could still spend months or even years of trying to get a home. The random timer sucks but you have a lot of players who want homes but are not trying to get one. You a add raffle and you go from lets say 20 or so people bidding for a one plot to several hundred if not 1k people bidding for it.