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    Y'shtola's "Marketing Armor"

    So, a few times these past couple of weeks, forum posters and youtubers and other people on other socials have asked or put out polls and things wondering, "Who do you think will be the next scion to die?" or "Which Scions would you like to see killed?" and other such similar things.

    It seems, almost every time I say Y'shtola, somebody jumps out of the woodwork saying, "She's the face of FFXIV! She's like Cloud for FF7. They can't kill her off, or they will lose money. She is invulnerable/untouchable/can't be messed with."

    So, what do you think, reader?

    https://www.strawpoll.me/20714364/r

    Personally, I think they've been building up to killing her off as a very emotional moment for FFXIV people, and the build up has been taking so long that by the time we get to the moment in the story where they finally decide to stop writing her out of death we'll basically be like, "Get on with it!"
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    Technically she SHOULD have a ticking clock right now. I mean, even faster than normal people. It's specifically mentioned during one of the HW MSQs (3.1-3.3 iirc) that she's using her own life force to "see". They could just as easily give Krile or one of the twins a promotion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaethusXion View Post
    Technically she SHOULD have a ticking clock right now. I mean, even faster than normal people. It's specifically mentioned during one of the HW MSQs (3.1-3.3 iirc) that she's using her own life force to "see". They could just as easily give Krile or one of the twins a promotion.
    Honestly I feel like they forgot about this plot point with how often Y'shtola is using it. She was in the First /how/ long without any ill effects from it's constant use? You could handwave that a bit by saying that because she was for all intents and purposes she was a tangible ghost that it doesn't count and that the timer on her life basically stopped the second she was transported. However unless the game outright comes out and states that to be the case I have to wonder if dying from such a thing is a long, drawn out process rather than something more swift (months versus years/decades) like it was implied to be.
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    It's kinda funny to me that she's the one who cast the Flow spell, caught in the Lifestream for a longer period of time, and is using Aether to see... yet Thancred is the one who was more affected.
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    I also think she is unkillable at the point. She will be there until the very end of the game.
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    She's like Sylvanas from WoW, except she's got a good moral compass and she's not insane. Her plot armor is just as thick, too. She's probably not going anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    She's like Sylvanas from WoW, except she's got a good moral compass and she's not insane. Her plot armor is just as thick, too. She's probably not going anywhere.
    Man I hate what Blizzard did to Sylvanas, she used to be one of my favorite characters ever.
    Then they just turned her into a cartoon villain after the Lich King was killed in WOTLK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    So, a few times these past couple of weeks, forum posters and youtubers and other people on other socials have asked or put out polls and things wondering, "Who do you think will be the next scion to die?" or "Which Scions would you like to see killed?" and other such similar things.

    It seems, almost every time I say Y'shtola, somebody jumps out of the woodwork saying, "She's the face of FFXIV! She's like Cloud for FF7. They can't kill her off, or they will lose money. She is invulnerable/untouchable/can't be messed with."

    So, what do you think, reader?

    https://www.strawpoll.me/20714364/r

    Personally, I think they've been building up to killing her off as a very emotional moment for FFXIV people, and the build up has been taking so long that by the time we get to the moment in the story where they finally decide to stop writing her out of death we'll basically be like, "Get on with it!"
    Y'shtola is more interesting then most of the other Scions. Killing her off would just make the Scions less interesting. Frankly I think Thancred should go since the writers never seem to know what to do with him. Each game/expansion and he has a new personality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Y'shtola is more interesting then most of the other Scions. Killing her off would just make the Scions less interesting. Frankly I think Thancred should go since the writers never seem to know what to do with him. Each game/expansion and he has a new personality.
    can I see the full picture of your sig with your character please? Also did you draw that? If so can I request you to color some lineart I'm going to do of my miqo sam? :O
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Y'shtola is more interesting then most of the other Scions. Killing her off would just make the Scions less interesting. Frankly I think Thancred should go since the writers never seem to know what to do with him. Each game/expansion and he has a new personality.
    I find Urianger and Thancred both to be far more interesting than Y'shtola. Whereas she remains static, snarky magical cat girl, they actually develop and reveal new thing after new thing about themselves. If anything, they don't know what to do with her, since we get the same song, second verse same as the first treatment with what she does each expansion( at the least the ones where she's a major participant HW and SHB). Views things on an aetheric level for foreshadowing --> Uses powerful forbidden lifestream learned magicks ---> Uses forbidden teleport spell, and gets brought back by a more learned magus. If they can't really freshen up her character at all, then she needs to go.

    What you view as a new personality each expansion for Thancred is just character development, even if it's executed poorly. He goes from workaholic womanizer to workaholic slightly past his prime with aetheric sensitivtiy, to workaholic that wants to be alone to process losing his adopted daughter of sorts to reluctant father figure for a girl who looks like the daughter he lost. I really like all the change he's gone through. Would be sad if he dies, but also it would make sense for him to die, considering all of the strain he's put himself through.

    Urianger obviously has the, "has met personally with the Ascians and not been body snatched," angle. Has been a double agent. Ties in with the twins. Has quirky, lovable speech, and even quirkier mannerisms/fears.
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