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    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    Not different than trying to state something as "the truth" and just giving a vague (and generic) argument. And when asked for more solid stuff is responded with "is not my job to educate you".



    Then how you explain the overrepresentation of women/men in certain sectors that still happens today even a myriad of measures has been put in place?
    Things are not going to change overnight. My parents generation were still expected to see the Mother stay at home and look after the kids. These measures that are being put in place have been around for such an incredibly short amount of time, and in such a small amount of countries that major change will take generations. And there's still around 50% or more in other countries of right wing/alt-right people who do not want to see progressive policies put in place and it takes time to roll over these people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    Feminism once was about equality. Now women have equal rights, but this new wave of feminism wants more than that and as such they're the only ones I've seen shaming women into not following their proposed doctrine.

    If I make a statement and you say that I'm wrong then it is entirely your responsibility to provide proof to the contrary. If it wasn't then all you would have to do to end an argument is to just say "you're wrong".
    If you really believe that the burden of proof is not on the person making the claim in the first place, then there is no way I can have a reasonable discussion with you, because you are going to believe what you want to believe regardless of the facts and evidence. This is how it works on every country on the planet. If I come to you and say, you killed a person, it's up to me to prove that you did, not up to you to prove that you didn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    If that were the case it wouldn't matter how many sources someone could site to make their claim, the opposing side could just dismiss them with "you're wrong" without having to show any evidence.
    Well, if you made a claim, and came to me with lots of sources backing it up, then I'm not gonna say that you're wrong. I'm not a conservative, I can accept facts and can have my mind changed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    All I can account for is the US so I can't make any claims for any other country, but, in the US women have equal rights. Period. They can vote, get an education and hold a job of their choosing. It is illegal to deny this based on gender, race, sexuality or religion.

    What you're thinking of is the disparity between men and women in certain fields. The idea that there has to be a 50/50 split of men and women in all things which is both wrong and if enforced is discrimination, which is illegal.
    A quick Google search shows me that in the most recent study, in the US, Women who are doing the exact same job as a man earn 78c per $1 earned by the man. Oh and there are also many states in the US which either restrict or criminalise Women's rights to do what they want with their own bodies.
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    Last edited by TheRealQuah; 07-28-2020 at 03:02 PM.