Lack of updates on Viera and Hrothgar.

[ItMe]

considering there is Hrothgar in the Relic quest area with manes those faces cant even have clearly means there is a update on the horizon.

I dunno man...
There are plenty of NPCs with custom faces we can't recreate in the character creator.

[reivaxe]

I dunno man...
There are plenty of NPCs with custom faces we can't recreate in the character creator.

Normally these NPCs have lines and are characters important to a story, they's not normally just randomly walking around.

I mean, it's smart to be skeptical ... but the devs have legit said that Hrothgar are getting new faces and manes and that Viera are getting new hair and now we see Hrothgar with face/ mane options that have not been seen in game before. I mean ... seems legit.
*Shrug

Hrothgar really butchered everything. If it wasn't for that fatal decision to lock Hrothgar's hair to face we would already have gotten new hairstyles for both races.

I love how you're marching around spreading this bs so boldly.

You must have high blood pressure.

[Amnmaat]

Normally these NPCs have lines and are characters important to a story, they's not normally just randomly walking around.

I mean, it's smart to be skeptical ... but the devs have legit said that Hrothgar are getting new faces and manes and that Viera are getting new hair and now we see Hrothgar with face/ mane options that have not been seen in game before. I mean ... seems legit.
*Shrug



I love how you're marching around spreading this bs so boldly.

You must have high blood pressure.

It's called logic and connecting the dots. If Viera started getting a bunch of hairstyles and Hrothgar got nothing, how do you think that would be received?

[Nestama]

It's called logic and connecting the dots. If Viera started getting a bunch of hairstyles and Hrothgar got nothing, how do you think that would be received?

For me personally, I wouldn't really care (hell, when I played male Roegadyn, he was usually always bald. Worked for the leatherman look I was going for)? The mane on the Hrothgar face I like the most is great. First thing SE should do for Hrothgar is let all manes be accessible for all faces (that way you're not spending real money for a different mane glued to a face. THAT is a huge issue that needs to be fixed ASAP).

Once they do that, I don't really care what they do next... though one thing I'd really like is to make it so Hrothgar and Viera can wear Mogstation hats (and then everything else eventually maybe). I'm otherwise really happy FFXIV has a playable beast race.

[Allegor]

For me personally, I wouldn't really care (hell, when I played male Roegadyn, he was usually always bald. Worked for the leatherman look I was going for)? The mane on the Hrothgar face I like the most is great. First thing SE should do for Hrothgar is let all manes be accessible for all faces (that way you're not spending real money for a different mane glued to a face. THAT is a huge issue that needs to be fixed ASAP).

Once they do that, I don't really care what they do next... though one thing I'd really like is to make it so Hrothgar and Viera can wear Mogstation hats (and then everything else eventually maybe). I'm otherwise really happy FFXIV has a playable beast race.

As much as I see where Amnmaat is coming from and agree to an extend, I also agree here. Let's be real, Viera and specially Hroth have very limited hair options, but even when the other races have wha, over 40 to chose from, 90% of people use the same ~10, so it's not just a matter of how many options they have, it's also about how good they look.

I, personally, love my Hroth as is, and just having all the existing hairs available would do for me. That said, that's another issue they may encounter - either they unlock all hairstyles for either head, or would need 8 variants of each face, and from then on, 4 variants every time they may decide to add a new hairstyle, which would probably be even more of a hot mess regarding the CC and its infamous spaghetti code.

[reivaxe]

It's called logic and connecting the dots. If Viera started getting a bunch of hairstyles and Hrothgar got nothing, how do you think that would be received?

... That's legit the current situation. You realize that, right? Hrothgar got to spend RL money to change hair between the same FACE where as Viera hair is treated like normal. That's not fair nor is it the same thing. And from a design stand point it would be far easier to make Hrothgar manes seeing as they don't have highlights and mostly look like what a race of manly beast men would do if left alone to manage their hair ... big sections of hair roughly managed into something pleasing yet beastly. Viera hair? That ish gotta look like HQ human hair and we have gotten a grand total of 2 new HQ hair styles for reg races post release of Shbs.

They are not and have never been treated as equals. When they give Hrothgar new manes and faces I expect them to expect Hroths to pay up for it cause manes were legit seen as a character creation option and not as "hair". Do you think they're gonna force Viera to buy their hair on the mogstation?

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Do you think they're gonna force Viera to buy their hair on the mogstation?

Lol Viera are wig wearing bald bunnies confirmed

[Yencat]

When they give Hrothgar new manes and faces I expect them to expect Hroths to pay up for it

As much as I hate the Viera hair situation, this is the most outrageous part about these 2 races.

[Amnmaat]

... That's legit the current situation. You realize that, right? Hrothgar got to spend RL money to change hair between the same FACE where as Viera hair is treated like normal. That's not fair nor is it the same thing. And from a design stand point it would be far easier to make Hrothgar manes seeing as they don't have highlights and mostly look like what a race of manly beast men would do if left alone to manage their hair ... big sections of hair roughly managed into something pleasing yet beastly. Viera hair? That ish gotta look like HQ human hair and we have gotten a grand total of 2 new HQ hair styles for reg races post release of Shbs.

They are not and have never been treated as equals. When they give Hrothgar new manes and faces I expect them to expect Hroths to pay up for it cause manes were legit seen as a character creation option and not as "hair". Do you think they're gonna force Viera to buy their hair on the mogstation?

How was that "current situation" received? They saw how almost every Hrothgar player was flabbergasted that they had to pay with a fantasia to change their hairstyle. After the reaction they have mirrored every Hrothgar/Viera decision 1:1, Nier headgear, dungeon headgear, etc.
The decisions they make at the job sound good in meetings but when they put the product out they realize they huge mistake they made. It's why 1.0 happens, something is a standard until the customers beat the dead horse to change the situation.