Regarding Firmament Titles For 5.3

[KageTokage]

from what i know bots can't make the highest quality of expert at that time idk now, the difference point is 24 hour bots is compareable with 2-3 hours of crafting or even just 1 hour of some super people that hide their rotation, thus who say they can't win because of bots is just an excuse.

Someone already quoted a statement from one of their websites that they do actually have an algorithm that allows them to consistently max collectability on expert recipes given favorable RNG.

Which further suggests to me that no countermeasures short of just aggressively hunting them down and banning them is actually going to accomplish anything (At least in the case of DoH/L bots that are not easily replaced).