The HORRENDOUS State of Housing

[Kiarin]

Almost ANY system would be better than what we have now. Also, adding Ishgard or 20 new wards to existing districts will only postpone, but not solve the systematic failure of soulless placard clickery.

This particular idea can be slightly improved, methinks. I would add something like:
When you aim for a plot, wait all the time and DON'T get it, you recieve an 1x "housing tomestone", which slightly increases your chances in RNG roulette next time. The more previous attempts - the more tomestones - the more chances to get your house in a next attempt.

This way, you are rewarded for efforts of wishing and hunting for house for a long time. And even if you don't get it again and again, you still retain a little sense of accomplishment, since you can see that you're working towards it.

+, Of course, 1 house per account.

[Ihaf_Frethyme]

yeah! That's why I think only FCs should get instanced districts. They can keep individual housing non-instanced. I've heard stories of FCs harassing people because they wanted a district to themselves. So it might help that issue as well. Not only that, but it can give something fun for FCs to work towards depending on the requirements SE put in place.

Imo I think the positives outweigh the negatives with these suggestions. Like yeah it would suck to lose rng but, it better than having to sit there for hours on end just clicking.

The only issue I can see atm is resources, is it more economical for instanced FC housing or harmful? Because I doubt they have the capability to provide an instance for every FC so how many do they make? and how big? Lets imagine the Firmament is going to be Instanced FC housing. The main FC house would have to be the apartment building (location wise) then they would have to flush out a brand new interior for that building. then members of the FC can either buy houses in the ward or live in rooms in the FC house like now. Then there is how many do they make? 30? 50? 100? more? Even at 100 instanced FC houses (per server) there will still be A LOT of FC with no home allowing for further expansions to provide housing both instanced and non-instanced.The question is, what can they afford?

[Ihaf_Frethyme]

Almost ANY system would be better than what we have now. Also, adding Ishgard or 20 new wards to existing districts will only postpone, but not solve the systematic failure of soulless placard clickery.

This particular idea can be slightly improved, methinks. I would add something like:
When you aim for a plot, wait all the time and DON'T get it, you recieve an 1x "housing tomestone", which slightly increases your chances in RNG roulette next time. The more previous attempts - the more tomestones - the more chances to get your house in a next attempt.

This way, you are rewarded for efforts of wishing and hunting for house for a long time. And even if you don't get it again and again, you still retain a little sense of accomplishment, since you can see that you're working towards it.

+, Of course, 1 house per account.

While I dont dislike this it does have some merit. You could use that tombstone as an extra ticket essentially. Obviously these need to be bound and not reusable. I could go either way on this one. Very nice thought though.

[GhostlyEggs]

The only issue I can see atm is resources, is it more economical for instanced FC housing or harmful? Because I doubt they have the capability to provide an instance for every FC so how many do they make? and how big? Lets imagine the Firmament is going to be Instanced FC housing. The main FC house would have to be the apartment building (location wise) then they would have to flush out a brand new interior for that building. then members of the FC can either buy houses in the ward or live in rooms in the FC house like now. Then there is how many do they make? 30? 50? 100? more? Even at 100 instanced FC houses (per server) there will still be A LOT of FC with no home allowing for further expansions to provide housing both instanced and non-instanced.The question is, what can they afford?

There would need to be a lot of tweaking of the idea for sure. I actually think largest issue would probably come from the back end of the server, with what it can and can't handle. Which they could bottleneck with what requirements and qualifications are needed for a FC district. So only the FCs who really want it would go for it. As I personally don't see every FC feeling the need for a whole district anyway.

[Canadane]

The same programmers who are slashing about 15% (time wise) off of the ARR MSQ list because they USED to think that it should take 9 minutes per quest? The same people who are just now implementing a teleport directly to the Waking Sands? They are not above changing things for the better. That's exactly what a raffle system will do.

It was 9 minutes for a set amount of exp earned.
And you can already teleport to basically right outside the door of the Waking Sands as the boat in Limsa takes you right there.

They are certainly not above putting in some QoL changes. All I'm saying is to keep your expectations realistic. It might not be what you want to hear, but it may help when these things don't happen.

[Jojoya]

The same programmers who are slashing about 15% (time wise) off of the ARR MSQ list because they USED to think that it should take 9 minutes per quest? The same people who are just now implementing a teleport directly to the Waking Sands? They are not above changing things for the better. That's exactly what a raffle system will do.

The programmers and other developers working on the MSQ revamp likely are not the ones who work on housing related content.

A raffle system doesn't change things for the better. It just changes the nature of the RNG involved. You're still going to end up with one winner and dozens of frustrated losers because there are not enough houses for every player that would like to have one.

Ishgard housing opening will help (even if it's just a continuation of the current system) but it will not solve the problem because there will still be more players per world than houses per world. The only thing that will solve the problem is an instanced system that allows every player and every FC to have a house if they want one.

[ElazulHP]

There are two camps of people who complain about housing. (1) The new players and the players that don't have a lot of gil who think their subscription entitles them to a plot & (2) the ultra wealthy people with hundreds of millions of gil whom have been playing a long time and have taken the necessary financial steps to work for the house. Both sides have opposing viewpoints, both sides are not exactly right or exactly wrong. However, there IS an answer that fixes it for EVERYONE and is fair to all. That system is instanced housing!

[Ihaf_Frethyme]

The programmers and other developers working on the MSQ revamp likely are not the ones who work on housing related content.

A raffle system doesn't change things for the better. It just changes the nature of the RNG involved. You're still going to end up with one winner and dozens of frustrated losers because there are not enough houses for every player that would like to have one.

Ishgard housing opening will help (even if it's just a continuation of the current system) but it will not solve the problem because there will still be more players per world than houses per world. The only thing that will solve the problem is an instanced system that allows every player and every FC to have a house if they want one.

Firstly, yes it does because it allows people to PLAY THE GAME without sitting there for 24 hours straight clicking constantly praying a transfer doesn't just walk up and snatch it. Instanced housing (as I've said before) depends on their resources and how they do it. But for the wards at already exist and will continue to exist, this raffle system is the best way to go. Stop just parroting ans assuming because it sounds good that how the Flat Earth movement took off. There is no way conceviable way to allow every player and FC a house, THAT is not going to happen. People start and stop all the time and you expect SE to set aside server space just for them? Never going to happen.

[Ihaf_Frethyme]

There are two camps of people who complain about housing. (1) The new players and the players that don't have a lot of gil who think their subscription entitles them to a plot & (2) the ultra wealthy people with hundreds of millions of gil whom have been playing a long time and have taken the necessary financial steps to work for the house. Both sides have opposing viewpoints, both sides are not exactly right or exactly wrong. However, there IS an answer that fixes it for EVERYONE and is fair to all. That system is instanced housing!

Wrong. Stop parroting. For future FC exclusive wards maybe IF they do it correctly (as I have previously said). But the existing wards will never have a system like that.

Also the gill is of no importance so take that elitist attitude out of here. Not every deserves a house, everyone eventually wants one. NOBODY deserves to have to stand there for 24 hours spamming the buy button in HOPES of getting one. Try actually reading next time instead of just spouting what you've heard.

[Ihaf_Frethyme]

It was 9 minutes for a set amount of exp earned.
And you can already teleport to basically right outside the door of the Waking Sands as the boat in Limsa takes you right there.

They are certainly not above putting in some QoL changes. All I'm saying is to keep your expectations realistic. It might not be what you want to hear, but it may help when these things don't happen.

So a system that allows players to actually play the game isn't QoL? As for the other 2 my point still stands. Maybe if more people like you would stop gatekeeping and actually think and embrace idea that would help more than just yourself the game would get more QoL changes faster. You also have yet to give 1 flaw in my system other than "I don't like it IMO" which is NOT a flaw; it is an opinion and an unsubstantiated one at that.