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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    If you're so new, why are you looking for a house so earnestly?
    There's a lot of other things to focus on first, imo.
    I have focused what I want to focus on and right now getting a house is near the top of that list. Not everybody plays the same way.

    Your idea also goes against the grain of their general programming. People are free to suggest things, and obviously SE could program anything, but there's also the realistic idea of how much work they are willing to put into a system that's already established. Big drastic changes likely aren't going to happen. We're more likely to get a new housing district with full ward count than a change to some lotto system.
    The same programmers who are slashing about 15% (time wise) off of the ARR MSQ list because they USED to think that it should take 9 minutes per quest? The same people who are just now implementing a teleport directly to the Waking Sands? They are not above changing things for the better. That's exactly what a raffle system will do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihaf_Frethyme View Post
    The same programmers who are slashing about 15% (time wise) off of the ARR MSQ list because they USED to think that it should take 9 minutes per quest? The same people who are just now implementing a teleport directly to the Waking Sands? They are not above changing things for the better. That's exactly what a raffle system will do.
    It was 9 minutes for a set amount of exp earned.
    And you can already teleport to basically right outside the door of the Waking Sands as the boat in Limsa takes you right there.

    They are certainly not above putting in some QoL changes. All I'm saying is to keep your expectations realistic. It might not be what you want to hear, but it may help when these things don't happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    It was 9 minutes for a set amount of exp earned.
    And you can already teleport to basically right outside the door of the Waking Sands as the boat in Limsa takes you right there.

    They are certainly not above putting in some QoL changes. All I'm saying is to keep your expectations realistic. It might not be what you want to hear, but it may help when these things don't happen.
    So a system that allows players to actually play the game isn't QoL? As for the other 2 my point still stands. Maybe if more people like you would stop gatekeeping and actually think and embrace idea that would help more than just yourself the game would get more QoL changes faster. You also have yet to give 1 flaw in my system other than "I don't like it IMO" which is NOT a flaw; it is an opinion and an unsubstantiated one at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihaf_Frethyme View Post
    The same programmers who are slashing about 15% (time wise) off of the ARR MSQ list because they USED to think that it should take 9 minutes per quest? The same people who are just now implementing a teleport directly to the Waking Sands? They are not above changing things for the better. That's exactly what a raffle system will do.
    The programmers and other developers working on the MSQ revamp likely are not the ones who work on housing related content.

    A raffle system doesn't change things for the better. It just changes the nature of the RNG involved. You're still going to end up with one winner and dozens of frustrated losers because there are not enough houses for every player that would like to have one.

    Ishgard housing opening will help (even if it's just a continuation of the current system) but it will not solve the problem because there will still be more players per world than houses per world. The only thing that will solve the problem is an instanced system that allows every player and every FC to have a house if they want one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    The programmers and other developers working on the MSQ revamp likely are not the ones who work on housing related content.

    A raffle system doesn't change things for the better. It just changes the nature of the RNG involved. You're still going to end up with one winner and dozens of frustrated losers because there are not enough houses for every player that would like to have one.

    Ishgard housing opening will help (even if it's just a continuation of the current system) but it will not solve the problem because there will still be more players per world than houses per world. The only thing that will solve the problem is an instanced system that allows every player and every FC to have a house if they want one.
    Firstly, yes it does because it allows people to PLAY THE GAME without sitting there for 24 hours straight clicking constantly praying a transfer doesn't just walk up and snatch it. Instanced housing (as I've said before) depends on their resources and how they do it. But for the wards at already exist and will continue to exist, this raffle system is the best way to go. Stop just parroting ans assuming because it sounds good that how the Flat Earth movement took off. There is no way conceviable way to allow every player and FC a house, THAT is not going to happen. People start and stop all the time and you expect SE to set aside server space just for them? Never going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihaf_Frethyme View Post
    The same programmers who are slashing about 15% (time wise) off of the ARR MSQ list because they USED to think that it should take 9 minutes per quest? The same people who are just now implementing a teleport directly to the Waking Sands? They are not above changing things for the better. That's exactly what a raffle system will do.
    There is quite a difference in removing quests than making a whole new housing system.

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyEggs View Post
    Imo they should also make instanced FC districts a thing. If players own a house in their FC district than they can't own a house an non instanced house.
    At this point it already seems like a bit of raffle anyways. At least this way players could walk away and do other things.
    Although I think players should only be able to enter one raffle at a time.
    The problem with that is going away the design SE wants with the wards, creating a housing community. I like how it is now.

    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    Just start charging rent. 10-20% of the max buy-price of the house every month or you lose it. You can pre-pay 2 months in advance. Then also make it sellable for up to 110% of the buy price you initially paid for it. Maybe if we made it less enticing to keep them because there's 0 upkeep there'd be more people willing to admit "I don't actually use this" because it's costing them gil.
    That's a terrible suggestion.

    Quote Originally Posted by KayRadley View Post
    You can suggest apartments until the crows come home to roost, but no one's gonna listen because they want gArDeNiNg.
    A valid complaint on Apartments, you can't do proper gardening with just 3 (or how many it is now) pots. You can't crossbreed which is essential for gardening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luna-M View Post
    There is quite a difference in removing quests than making a whole new housing system.
    A whole new housing system would be instanced housing, not adding a raffle draw option to placards with a few textboxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihaf_Frethyme View Post
    A whole new housing system would be instanced housing, not adding a raffle draw option to placards with a few textboxes.
    Yep. A raffle just adds more RNG into the mix, and more competition. In the end, the housing system would be in worse shape than it is already so a raffle would solve absolutely nothing.
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    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Yep. A raffle just adds more RNG into the mix, and more competition. In the end, the housing system would be in worse shape than it is already so a raffle would solve absolutely nothing.
    To be fair it does solve the issue of people endlessly clicking because they personally they feel the need to do so to get a house.

    Granted I do not think people should camp out for plots, but a lottery system would allow them to not feel the need to endlessly click for a plot. So for the most part it would solve the issue some people have with our housing system. Though I do agree a lottery system is a meh idea at best and just trades one form of inadequate distribution method for another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    To be fair it does solve the issue of people endlessly clicking because they personally they feel the need to do so to get a house.

    Granted I do not think people should camp out for plots, but a lottery system would allow them to not feel the need to endlessly click for a plot. So for the most part it would solve the issue some people have with our housing system. Though I do agree a lottery system is a meh idea at best and just trades one form of inadequate distribution method for another.
    Raising the housing price would fix this problem too. Many of the people clicking placards would have to go back to making gil. At the same time more gil would be removed from the game every time someone buys a house, making it slightly more difficult to acquire gil. If there is going to be competition I'd rather have the opportunity to affect my standing than be denied a house forever based on RNG.
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