The HORRENDOUS State of Housing

[Zeonx]

I agree, I owned a house and didn't think anything special about it, I don't know why anyone would.

What for airship stuff or submarine stuff? Really could care less about that content, I can un-sub anytime I want without worry of the 45 day and losing a huge chunk of gil used to buy that house, to take breaks to play other things and experience other stuff save a bit of money and maybe later return at a later date.

If I were Square Enix, I would of just gave everyone their Gil back, built upon apartments, put balconies for gardening and make a place for birds like a inside barn that keeps a persons chocobo for leveling and coloring, remove all outside furnishing free up some data and make submarine and airship stuff connected to the lobby where anyone can do that stuff.

Because every time a problem happens they are going to shut down home demolish and face it there will be more than one time this is going to happen and I believe that housing is a failed project, nifty idea at first but it to me is just a ploy to get people to stay subbed to the game due to the fear of losing their house.

[Liam_Harper]

Houses are just far too cheap. The pricing would be fine for instanced housing, but a low price tag on a highly desirable item in very limited supply is obviously going to cause immediate shortage and bad feelings. I know many will disagree with this, but housing should have been a long term endgame goal, with mansions requiring either a lot of teamwork from an FC or a very rich player. OR instanced and available to everyone. The current system is trying to make it accessible to everyone and heavily restricting it all at the same time.

[Lucy_Pyre]

There are better ways to take care of the housing system that were posted in previous threads. Implementing a RNG system for housing is the worst idea IMO.

It's already RNG lol

[Alleo]

If I were Square Enix I would just lock housing to FCs that have 5 people or more for 30 days, yes 30 days. Apartments should be for those wanting their own space to decorate. It's like in real life, most people don't have the funds alone to buy a 3 bedroom house on their own, it's usually a couple/family that has enough to pay for it/be eligible for it. Same rule should apply here, but instead of couple/family it would be FC.

That argument makes no sense to me. In real life people just dont buy a house on their own because they lack money but you are still able to do so if you want to. Ingame people have the Gil. Getting at least a few million gil should be not hard. Heck just play through the story, sell every item you have that you dont need and you could at least buy a small one.

Also why only at five? What about those FCs that have four people and the gil? Again even in real life you can own your own house..I do know quite a few neighbors that are living in one and are only two people.

Originally housing was indeed locked to FCs only, and I seem to remember there being a member requirement beyond just founding. SE listened to what people wanted then and caved, opening up housing to individuals.

Wards were once FC only but they had planned to give us different personal housing..but instead of doing that they just decided to open up wards for individual players too for the same costs (with less features..) because either they could not manange to create a good personal housing system or they just did not want to put into more work and did not think about the consequences of that action..in the end it was not the fault of the players but SE.

[Renato]

If I were Square Enix, I would of just gave everyone their Gil back, built upon apartments, put balconies for gardening and make a place for birds like a inside barn that keeps a persons chocobo for leveling and coloring, remove all outside furnishing free up some data and make submarine and airship stuff connected to the lobby where anyone can do that stuff.

Because every time a problem happens they are going to shut down home demolish and face it there will be more than one time this is going to happen and I believe that housing is a failed project, nifty idea at first but it to me is just a ploy to get people to stay subbed to the game due to the fear of losing their house.

This is one of the best ideas I've ever heard. I lost my house 4 months ago when I unsubbed. I recently began to dabble in apartments and honestly, they really aren't that bad especially once you start utilizing the glitches. I turned a small room into what seems to be a larger, loft-style apartment with multiple rooms. And I don't have to worry about losing it if I get bored and unsub.

The two issues I have with apartments are the size and the fact that you have to use glitches to place furniture on the lofts. I feel like the apartments should offer different sizes but instead of having players just outright buy the larger rooms, (because we all know there are douchebag players will buy up EVERYTHING just because) everyone should be given the opportunity to buy the smallest apartment at 500k gil and have the option to spend more to add to renovate it. Upgrade to a medium adds a loft for another 1M gil. The largest room would be 1.5-2M. Wanna add a garden to your balcony? 200k gil.

I also feel like players should only be allowed 1 room per character on that data center. That way people aren't just making alts to buy them.

[LaylaTsarra]

I also feel like players should only be allowed 1 room per character on that data center. That way people aren't just making alts to buy them.

Alts have rights too. They can't share a house so at the least they sure are welcome to buying apartments if they want to.

And relative to giving people their gil back and scrapping the housing system... I wouldn't hold your breath.

[Ihaf_Frethyme]

That's cute. Now imagine trying to get a house since late ARR and only just managing to finally get one in Shadowbringers. Given how new you are to the game there are plenty of other things you should be focusing on imo. Chances of them completely scrapping and re-inventing the wheel when it comes to housing is probably never going to happen and the best we are going to get is them just adding more wards.

Again, Ive done what I want and I have my reasons. Not everyone plays the same way. Imagine if we could do BOTH play the game and get housing? What a concept. Anyone who went through that should be the hardest fighters for a change so nobody else has to go through what they did.

[Vahlnir]

It's already RNG lol

Right, but we shouldn't want to replace an RNG based system with an RNG based system. That doesn't solve the underlying issue which is supply vs demand.

[Ihaf_Frethyme]

Originally housing was indeed locked to FCs only, and I seem to remember there being a member requirement beyond just founding. SE listened to what people wanted then and caved, opening up housing to individuals.

Then people complained that RMT peeps are house flipping, so they added random timers.

Then people complained that individuals can purchase so many houses, so that has been updated:(source link)

The gist is if you own an FC with a house on one character, an alt can not purchase the FC house...but this is easily loopholed by having someone else buy it for you. Also an alt can not purchase their own house, assuming these restrictions are indeed in effect. (So current limit should be 2, but with some effort, you can get 9).

At this point I would not be surprised if SE just threw their hands up and said “to hell with this”, because unless they have instanced housing for 100% of the population, no one will ever be satisfied.


...and we will keep getting posts like these every week.(not that you are wrong to post, just that we are collectively shouting into an endless void of a problem at this point)

So they messed up, half-assed fixed the issue and its the players faults? All most people in the market for a house want is no bots and to actually play the game. Maybe we need to yell louder.

[FudoMyoo]

I camped 5 years for a house. If housing is your end game, maybe look somewhere else ... (other games)