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    Quote Originally Posted by xxvaynxx View Post
    Well...so is prostitutes and that's actually in the game :x with some characters openly admitting they were/are one..in the MSQ which begs the question. Is running a player brothel against the ToS? Because with that logic FFXIV itself isn't appropriate for 13 year olds and breaking their own ToS.
    There's a big difference between the game mentioning the existence of something as part of the story narrative and having players participate in that activity.

    I can't recall where the game had us engage in prostitution or sexual acts for the purpose of the narrative.
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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxvaynxx View Post
    I know a guy that cuss publicly all the time and he has never gotten a warning and I should know because I do ex primals with them quite a lot.
    See? we can both play the "I know a guy that" Game.
    Have you reported them for doing it? Have other players reported them for doing it?

    The game and GM staff can't monitor everything every player does online. Things will get missed if no one reports it.
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Have you reported them for doing it? Have other players reported them for doing it?

    The game and GM staff can't monitor everything every player does online. Things will get missed if no one reports it.
    Watch they will add some bot like Ubisoft did in R6 like a couple years ago. Just auto ban anyone who puts "profanity" in the chat.
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violyre View Post
    It also says "online interactions not rated by the ESRB." Did you forget that?



    No no, you don't get to cop out that easily. YOU proposed the idea. YOU come up with a proposal to solve the problem. We can work off YOUR proposal to improve it. It's not just a game thing. This happens in EVERY community on the internet. YOU NEVER KNOW WHO'S ON THE OTHER END!



    Different concepts. One is subtle, the other is more direct.
    That does not matter. That's just SE trying to protect itself, when someone does something wrong. It does not mean SE won't crack down or a government won't start investigations into players if something happens.

    It's not my responsibility to come up with a plan for people to ERP properly, since I don't ERP. Getting to know people and who they are on a natural level is a possibility.

    The mentions of lust and the adult jokes in cartoons are about the same level. They are obvious to adults.

    Quote Originally Posted by xxvaynxx View Post
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    See above on the rating.

    Parents giving the green light for a teen to play a teen game is not bad parenting. I don't have an agenda, at least not the one you think I have. I am giving consideration to ERPers, despite the fact that some of them really don't deserve it for putting people in harms way. If you want to ERP, you are going to have to find a different way to not put people in harm's way. SE wants it rated teen, so teens can play. If they did not want teens to play, they would have gone in a different direction. Teens are meant to play this game, which is why it is rated T.
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  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    There's a big difference between the game mentioning the existence of something as part of the story narrative and having players participate in that activity.

    I can't recall where the game had us engage in prostitution or sexual acts for the purpose of the narrative.
    Doesn't matter if we're engaging in the act.
    If its illegal in some countries then it shouldn't be shown at all.
    Because if your case is brothels are illegal and break the Tos, then the characters that are prostitutes also break the ToS and shouldn't be shown in game.
    You know whats also illegal? Sex slaves, and you visually see it too...in the FIRST dungeon.
    I can get way more extreme but you get my point.

    You can't just cherry pick to whatever suits your narrative.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Have you reported them for doing it? Have other players reported them for doing it?

    The game and GM staff can't monitor everything every player does online. Things will get missed if no one reports it.
    Yes because I'm going to report my own friend.
    And pretty sure he has been reported with the way they joke.
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    Last edited by xxvaynxx; 07-26-2020 at 08:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    Wait... so Balmung isn't actually the epicenter of this? I guess it's time to update the meme...
    Little does everyone know it's actually every world that isn't Balmung. If you look at Crystal's PF, it's mostly Malboro and other worlds that should have been cut off to nu-Aether.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Have you reported them for doing it? Have other players reported them for doing it?

    The game and GM staff can't monitor everything every player does online. Things will get missed if no one reports it.
    This is why I would like for there to be a way to report with less hassle in game. Or add a category for it down the list. Call it my OCD, but I like for my reports to be very neat and categorized to the letter.

    I report inappropriate player names and search info all the time. Guarantee you they have to have it changed. Party Finders are not an exception just because they play around with wording to not include a direct swear. "Hot Ala Mhigan escorts" is terrible enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    That does not matter. That's just SE trying to protect itself, when someone does something wrong. It does not mean SE won't crack down or a government won't start investigations into players if something happens.
    Okay. How is that different from people putting up "18+ only?" It's the same exact concept. The brothels are protecting themselves, in case something goes wrong. Why are there no complaints about the players who use PF to sell runs? I humored myself just now and inquired to a couple of them. It's definitely RMT. That's against the TOS too, yet I see the same names for months on end. And most of those people aren't in league with the gilsellers, these are actual players who have geared themselves to be able to do that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    It's not my responsibility to come up with a plan for people to ERP properly, since I don't ERP. Getting to know people and who they are on a natural level is a possibility.
    Not something that can easily be done in the short time many of these places are open, usually only around four hours from what I've seen. Even if we were somehow allowed to ask for ID and they gave it, it doesn't mean it's real or even theirs. The next step would be to make people go physically find those people, take their ID, look for any signs of fakery or tampering, run them against the database that has that info, background checks, etc. How far down this hole would you like to go? Because it's going to happen whether it's advertised or not.

    The only thing that punishing these people is going to do is make them find cute ways to describe it, or ways around banned words, like the gilsellers do.
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    Oh Aether~
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    The players are the ones engaging in the conduct with the minors, not SE. That does not protect them. RMT is a problem, and I report the advertisers all the time. ERP with a minor is worse. Even if you had 0% chance of getting caught, do you think it is moral to advertise it to people (where minors scan see it), especially when you don't have an answer to weeding out minors?

    ERP events? Why would you run an erp event with people you don't know? That is asking for trouble. Both for the minor reason and potential drama reasons.
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