Advertising sexual content in party finder

[GhostlyEggs]

I can answer that with this person's quote pretty easily:


Also the post right above:

I'm sorry but, what are you answering? There are many other activities in the game that aren't central to action adventure. That's a moot point to make. Again, the issue is not ERP. The issue is making sure minors don't get involved in it. If you simply don't like people doing ERP that's a completely different issue. Personally, it's not something I see myself doing but, as long as safe guards are put into place I don't mind other people doing it.

I don't care about people doing ERP
I only care about them putting safety measures in place. That's where my suggestion comes from.
That's it.

[xxvaynxx]

Brothels are illegal in most parts of the world. I would imagine that SE would prefer they don't exist in the game.

Well...so is prostitutes and that's actually in the game :x with some characters openly admitting they were/are one..in the MSQ which begs the question. Is running a player brothel against the ToS? Because with that logic FFXIV itself isn't appropriate for 13 year olds and breaking their own ToS.

[SturmChurro]

I'm sorry but, what are you answering? There are many other activities in the game that aren't central to action adventure. That's a moot point to make. Again, the issue is not ERP. The issue is making sure minors don't get involved in it. If you simply don't like people doing ERP that's a completely different issue. Personally, it's not something I see myself doing but, as long as safe guards are put into place I don't mind other people doing it.

I don't care about people doing ERP
I only care about them putting safety measures in place. That's where my suggestion comes from.
That's it.

Originally my response to you was that it would be endorsing ERP. Nasty behaviour, which would never be endorsed by SE, especially not in a T rated game. If you really want to protect minors, you ban this behavior entirely in every case. EVEN IF they were to endorse it like you suggest, how many actual minors do you think lie about their ages on any given registration online? All that would be doing is protecting the company in writing, not actual minors. In fact your suggestion would probably just encourage more of them to lie about their age! Unless you want people to start having to register for online games with all their personal information, like their social, photographic ID, etc. Ridiculous.

[Driavna]

But if you say "F**k you dude!" in the context that you're fighting with someone or spamming in shout chat. Yeah you would or at least get a warning.

I know a player that for saying "f... my luck" after a bad roll got a stern talk and a warning. The WoL is not supposed to curse.

Well...so is prostitutes and that's actually in the game :x with some characters openly admitting they were/are one..in the MSQ which begs the question. Is running a player brothel against the ToS? Because with that logic FFXIV itself isn't appropriate for 13 year olds and breaking their own ToS.

Yoshida statement is as follow:

What is your official stance on player-run “brothels,” wherein two consenting players have cybersex in exchange for in-game currency? [This was a contentious question, and one that Yoshida seemed blindsided by. -Ed]

Yoshida: First of all, there is a user agreement that all players have to agree to before they can even start playing Final Fantasy XIV. Within that user agreement is a clause that prohibits any unacceptable conduct to this end, including behavior that infringes upon laws. Any players who violate those rules will be punished by banning or other penalties. This applies no matter which end of the exchange a player is on. Everyone who plays Final Fantasy XIV is subject to investigation for violating the terms of service, period. Because Final Fantasy XIV is a worldwide game, there is the potential for players from many different regions to interact with one another, and we have legal support available to assist us in investigations to this end in many countries. If you see someone engaging in this type of behavior, we ask you to report it.

[SturmChurro]

What is your official stance on player-run “brothels,” wherein two consenting players have cybersex in exchange for in-game currency? [This was a contentious question, and one that Yoshida seemed blindsided by. -Ed]

Yoshida: First of all, there is a user agreement that all players have to agree to before they can even start playing Final Fantasy XIV. Within that user agreement is a clause that prohibits any unacceptable conduct to this end, including behavior that infringes upon laws. Any players who violate those rules will be punished by banning or other penalties. This applies no matter which end of the exchange a player is on. Everyone who plays Final Fantasy XIV is subject to investigation for violating the terms of service, period. Because Final Fantasy XIV is a worldwide game, there is the potential for players from many different regions to interact with one another, and we have legal support available to assist us in investigations to this end in many countries. If you see someone engaging in this type of behavior, we ask you to report it.

There it is, from the top.

[Mhaeric]

Players advertising sexual content so flagrantly in PF is out of hand in Aether.

Wait... so Balmung isn't actually the epicenter of this? I guess it's time to update the meme...

[Violyre]

Originally my response to you was that it would be endorsing ERP. Nasty behaviour, which would never be endorsed by SE, especially not in a T rated game. If you really want to protect minors, you ban this behavior entirely in every case. EVEN IF they were to endorse it like you suggest, how many actual minors do you think lie about their ages on any given registration online? All that would be doing is protecting the company in writing, not actual minors. In fact your suggestion would probably just encourage more of them to lie about their age! Unless you want people to start having to register for online games with all their personal information, like their social, photographic ID, etc. Ridiculous.

You do realize how much ERP goes on even if you take out the brothels, right? I'd almost guess the majority of players would get banned if your proposal to ban the behavior got banned, and they'd have to shut down the servers. Then I guess we don't have to worry about ERP in FFXIV anymore, would we?

[xxvaynxx]

I know a player that for saying "f... my luck" after a bad roll got a stern talk and a warning. The WoL is not supposed to curse.





Yoshida statement is as follow:

That's not really answering anything because you're not breaking any rules, what rules are you breaking running a brothel? if you're in private with a person that wants to erp with you or even doing it in /tell, what rule are you breaking.
I just answered that from the person that linked your comment.

Also. How do you know said person didn't have any outstanding reports the gm's didn't bother checking up on?

I know a guy that cuss publicly all the time and he has never gotten a warning and I should know because I do ex primals with them quite a lot.
See? we can both play the "I know a guy that" Game.

[SturmChurro]

You do realize how much ERP goes on even if you take out the brothels, right? I'd almost guess the majority of players would get banned if your proposal to ban the behavior got banned, and they'd have to shut down the servers. Then I guess we don't have to worry about ERP in FFXIV anymore, would we?

Of course it goes on. They like to chat on discord, and publicly hide their character name/server on twitter. Again, in my original response to that user, it would be them (SE) endorsing this behavior. Which they most certainly do NOT. I was responding to that users suggested supposed "solution" to prevent minors from getting involved, and again the only way to prevent minors from getting involved is to ban this behavior in every case. Even then players will find more underhanded ways to do it, third party.

Also, I don't think your bubble of ERP is as large as you actually think it is. Certainly not large enough to "shut down" FFXIV, please.

[Driavna]

That's not really answering anything because you're not breaking any rules, what rules are you breaking running a brothel? if you're in private with a person that wants to erp with you or even doing it in /tell, what rule are you breaking.
I just answered that from the person that linked your comment from yoshi-P.

Also. How do you know he didn't have any outstanding reports the gm's didn't bother checking up on?

I know a guy that cussing publicly all the time and he has never gotten a warning and I should know because I do ex primals with them quite a lot.
See? we can both play the "I know a guy that" Game.

You can believe me or not, it's up to you. The reality is what it is, all its takes is that someone report it.