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  1. #221
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    My bet is....

    that the Trial will eventually culminate into a match between the WoL and "Ardbert" accompanied by the ghosts of "his" comrades, after fight thought other Light aspected specters
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    Yorha in new trailer makes me even less happy about it's lore. Such huge structures outside and no one ever saw them. Really? ...

    Weapons. Someone on reddit made this:


    MSQ.
    I wonder if those yellow people are like manikins in Opera Omnia...

    There are some differences in different languages. So far I've seen people mention:
    In French trailer Y'shtola says: " Do you think you're the same person you once were" instead of speaking about cacophony voices.
    The French trailer ends with G'raha saying "We'll talk again, you and I, once I've fulfilled my duty as the Crystal Exarch"
    It would be great if someone could do the comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Here comes the question then...
    How are we going to defeat that many? Will it be a normal trial, it ends, he summons more, and then we end up using the power from our Ascian self to defeat them? Will it just end? Or will some unknown event happen?
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    Remember, the Source WoL (player) is 9 times rejoined; 9 times as much aether as WoLs from the other shards. @1:29, I can count 9 WoLs. If there are 9, the Source WoL may be evenly matched (if that is how we are calculating powerlevels). If there are up to 13 hostile WoLs, then Source WoL is outmatched 13 to 9, which aren't too bad odds. Plus, the WoL is being backed up by G'raha Tia. Then again, it looks like the Source WoL is also fighting against Elidibus at the same time, who is a whole 14/14. So... Source Wol 9/14 and G'raha Tia vs up to 13 1/14s + a 14/14 Elidibus. Oof. Looks like a big challenge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Here comes the question then...
    How are we going to defeat that many? Will it be a normal trial, it ends, he summons more, and then we end up using the power from our Ascian self to defeat them? Will it just end? Or will some unknown event happen?
    At the beginning of the trailer...

    ... we see the Derplander fighting some maybe-WoL-spirits in Il Mheg with some Fuath. That's presumably from the new dungeon, the Heroes' Gauntlet (oho, the Heroes' Gauntlet!) If the trash pulls in the dungeon are the summons, and the bosses (the lady from the Patch Site and the Beserker from the PLL) are extra-strong heroes of Light summoned from other shards, then the trial could be pretty much anything that fits that vein. Maybe he summons a WoL from the fallen void, like bringing the Shadowkeeper back into her power, or calling Unukalhai back from the Source as his estranged mentor? Maybe he summons the remaining unjoined fragments of our own soul for a WoL-on-WoL mirror match that leaves us fully Rejoined at the end? Maybe he called HILDIBRAND HELIODOR MANDERVILLE himself? There's lots of ways it could go if this proves right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HamiltonCalder View Post
    So in the trailer...

    we see Elidibert open a bunch of the same summoning portals that G'raha used to call the "heroes from beyond the rift" that fought Hades with us. I bet he's calling a bunch of Hydaelyn's chosen from other shards (or even through time!?) to fight the so-called Warrior of Darkness, presenting himself as a champion of light.
    About that

    Seems to be the case but I wonder what he said to them that they believe him..also he show his Ascian glyphe..shouldnt that maybe show them that he is not nice?


    About the death flags

    I will probably be wrong but would SE really show the exarch death in a trailer? Last time something big like that was shown, was with Ysthola and it turned out to be a red herring. So I go against many of the posts and say that he will survive.
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    A translation of FR trailer. No idea how accurate it is https://twitter.com/Tacogoats/status...96949435183104
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    About the MSQ.

    There is such irony in this finale being that...

    to save the Source and all remaining Shards, we must kill the other Warriors of Light chosen from the other Shards and the Source who were chosen to protect these worlds. In their blindness by the Light they are unknowningly helping with the destruction of their homes but in their mind they are saving their homes from the Warrior of Darkness. I will not be surprised if this Finale resulted in our character being the Last Warrior of Light because we ended up killing all the other Warriors of Light in this Finale.

    In the end it may end up being a Win Win Scenario for Elidibus because on one hand if his plan succeeds then he has removed the greatest threat to his plans being our WoL and on the other he has wiped out any possible aid from other Warriors of Light for our WoL during the finale of Season 1 storyline because we are forced to kill them all in this Finale for Shadowbringer.


    Still we are now at the Semi-finale for Season 1 storyline with 6.0 or 6.3 being the Finale of this long Zodiark versus Hydaelyn storyline. Who knows where this will lead now we are literally at the doors of Season 1 ending that has gone on since 1.0.
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    To begin, Sapphire Weapon:

    That mech we get to pilot is totally bad ass. I'm looking forward to this more than just about anything else in the patch. It's just that cool, holy hell. I'm seriously getting some Trails of Cold Steel vibes from this encounter.

    *Ahem* From what I can gather, it looks like Gaius wanted to be the one to confront his child. Likely because the lack of trust anyone has for him, we went instead to face the Sapphire Weapon.


    Main story:
    Looks like things are about to escalate big time. Seems like the catalyst of the events to come is centered around the crystal tower. Now I'm not one hundred percent sure if those shades of light we are fighting are other warriors of light. However, it does seem like the most likely explanation given Elidibus' plan at this point of time. The fae folk are getting dragged into this mess as well, possibly due to our relation to their king. Going a little further into the trailer, we are now in Eulmore, where we happen to be when the starfall happened. There are several circles that remind me of the trial against Hades, providing further evidence (at least to me) that these may be other warriors of light.

    "There may come a day where you forget the faces and voices of those you met along the way." This could mean many things really. Based on the fact it shown Lyna and G'raha during this point of the trailer, my guess is that something will happen that will cause the latter's death. Everyone will forget him after this and the scions are sent back if his 'If I die, you should be returned home' theory is correct. Two scenes later in the trailer seem to suggest this will happen.

    The warrior boss and the sorcereress boss are likely other versions of ourselves as far as I can tell. They seem to be more powerful than the shades of light. The dragoon that took down the airship may be another one of these unusually powerful shades of light, possibly another boss. I do have to wonder who Y'shtola is speaking to with the cacophony of voices line? My guess is Elidibus as he is assumingly the one causing the shades of light to appear on the first.

    G'raha will fight beside is in a story trial, leading to him being injured by Elidibus. Based on the end of the trailer, this speeds up his crystalization process and perhaps leads to our memories being wiped in relation to the Exarch when he dies from it.


    Nier:

    Things are also starting to escalate when it comes to the raid series. Robots are attacking the dwarves, forcing them to bring out the tanks to defend themselves. It could be possible that this is 9s' doing as I think he's one of the YoRHa units seen standing against 2P and the dwarves. He's the one standing in the back ground just to 2P's right. Quite a few new bosses that weren't present. They look a lot cleaner than the robots we fought in the previous raid, so maybe weapons the Council of Humanity used on their home base.

    My guess is to why these ruins haven't been found is probably the most likely. Perhaps these structions do not exist on the first but as a result of a dimensional merge? We do have to access them through a rather unusual door with Emil's face acting as a lock. I suppose if the mountain was closer to the wall of light, the Eulmorians didn't have a reason to fly over it. We did enter Kholusia from the beach to the eastern side. However, I'm not going to pretend I know what goes through the mind of Yoko Taro.


    Bozja:

    A lot of escalation this patch. We are going straight to war with the Garleans with the Bozjan resistance. The Hrothgar Paladin shot is interesting and it seems like the battlefield is acting as another Eureka. Perhaps with objectives being important to completing the relic rather than leveling up. Perhaps it is even a new dungeon.
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  9. #229
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    Quote Originally Posted by KylePearlsand View Post
    Bozja:

    A lot of escalation this patch. We are going straight to war with the Garleans with the Bozjan resistance. The Hrothgar Paladin shot is interesting and it seems like the battlefield is acting as another Eureka. Perhaps with objectives being important to completing the relic rather than leveling up. Perhaps it is even a new dungeon.
    I am only assuming that they are going the GW2 World Map Meta route for this one where players have different path and fate events to help contribute towards pushing into the Main Garlean Fortress with it ending in a Meta Finale boss at the heart of the fortress.

    From the stuff mentioned it seems that there maybe no alternate level for the Bozjan Resistance Map this time thus instead progress maybe focused on the 5.X Resistance weapons. Just jump into the map with the level 71+ Job you want and start working towards progressing the world Map Meta event.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    I am only assuming that they are going the GW2 World Map Meta route for this one where players have different path and fate events to help contribute towards pushing into the Main Garlean Fortress with it ending in a Meta Finale boss at the heart of the fortress.

    From the stuff mentioned it seems that there maybe no alternate level for the Bozjan Resistance Map this time thus instead progress maybe focused on the 5.X Resistance weapons. Just jump into the map with the level 71+ Job you want and start working towards progressing the world Map Meta event.
    I though the Resistance Rank is the equivalent to the Elemental Levels of Eureka
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