But it's not the same as last time. He's joining them directly this time.





But it's not the same as last time. He's joining them directly this time.


Alright, Trailer time...
MSQ
Things are getting interesting. Massive death flags for the Exarch which I'm 50/50 about, I can see both his death and survival happening. Is that Hythlodaeus we go see in Amaurot? I think that the part that has someone stating they want to speak to us alone is not Elidibus. At least in german, I personally think the voice sounds different from Elidibus' voice later in the trailer.
Also, please don't kill the last Ascian yet.
At least no Zenos in Trailer!
NieR Raid
I don't know much about NieR, but it looks cool, I guess? Will be interesting to see why the Yorha didn't attack the dwarves before considering they did not just arrive.
Sorrows of Werlyt
Haha, I called the thing being built by the Ironworks! Looks cool, I'm happy to see they used the VII concept for Sapphire. Just said it gets killed off unceremoniously again.
So, the blue haired Au Ra piloting it (Rex) looks pretty mad in the Echo-esque vision. Hope that doesn't make him do something reckless.
Bozja
Hey, cool, Adrammelech. Also that one Hrothgar has glowy blue eyes, is he possessed?
My thoughts on Mystery Trial...
The Trailer makes it look like it's going to be Elidibus and/or his Warriors of Light, but they said it's not something we would expect and why keep it that secret if you put obvious things in the Trailer?
Since we see what I assume is Hythlodaeus, I think he is related to the Mystery Trial. The picture on the website shows but the faded out white dots on black ground, we have a similar screenshot there, with the Convocation members. Maybe something with Flashbacks? And the text says WoD is being tested like never before. Elidibus is past the point of testing, he just wants us gone. But maybe Hyth wants to, and if he is the one in the trailer to day he wants to speak with us alone...
I'm taking Lore way too seriously. And I'm not sorry about that.



Regarding Exarch:
I have a feeling that that beautiful opening shot of the Crystal Tower is actually a far away shot of the moment we beat Elidibus and G'raha is taking control of the tower back and stopping the meteors... and crystallizing to death in the process.
My thoughts on Mystery Trial...
The Trailer makes it look like it's going to be Elidibus and/or his Warriors of Light, but they said it's not something we would expect and why keep it that secret if you put obvious things in the Trailer?
Since we see what I assume is Hythlodaeus, I think he is related to the Mystery Trial. The picture on the website shows but the faded out white dots on black ground, we have a similar screenshot there, with the Convocation members. Maybe something with Flashbacks? And the text says WoD is being tested like never before. Elidibus is past the point of testing, he just wants us gone. But maybe Hyth wants to, and if he is the one in the trailer to day he wants to speak with us alone...I'm with you on the mystery trial possibly being Amaurot/Ancients-related, considering the filter of the image for it looks a lot like the static-filled film grain we get when seeing the holovids of the Amaurotines turn on and off in Anamnesis Anyder.
I do think its Elidibus who wants to "talk to you alone", though.
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I have a hard time imagining what kind of scheming Elidibus would've had to have been doing to get a veritable army's worth of WoLs from other worlds to turn on us so readily.
The fact that most of them are aglow with that strange aura of light makes me wonder if he's somehow manipulating them in a more direct manner using his Starshower foolery or some such.





Or, it's just more smoke and mirrors just like his fake starshower. At least one of the 'WoLs' apparently shown in the trailer is just a glowing sillhouette, which someone else earlier mentioned looked much like the Manikins from the Dissidia games (which were just crystal drones of the main protagonists/antagonists with no actual intelligence or free-will - they were just crystal puppets basically).I have a hard time imagining what kind of scheming Elidibus would've had to have been doing to get a veritable army's worth of WoLs from other worlds to turn on us so readily.
The fact that most of them are aglow with that strange aura of light makes me wonder if he's somehow manipulating them in a more direct manner using his Starshower foolery or some such.
So I wonder if Elidibus has resorted to making literal fake WoLs to set against us, being incapable of getting the actual WoLs from the four remaining Shards not yet Rejoined like G'raha did. It would still suit his ends either way, to sow more chaos and strife in the First, make it look like the 'Light' fighting back in Norvrandt, that the player's character is powerless to stop it. Much chaos and destruction occurs on the First, Light aether starts surging back to the Source, setting the Eighth Calamity and the Ascians' plans, back on track. Or so he would hope.
We'll find out in a few weeks either way.
I guess considering that Emet Selch was able to make multiple very tangible monstrositys for us to fight against in Amaurot, Elidibus being able to do the same wouldn't be much of a stretch.Or, it's just more smoke and mirrors just like his fake starshower. At least one of the 'WoLs' apparently shown in the trailer is just a glowing sillhouette, which someone else earlier mentioned looked much like the Manikins from the Dissidia games (which were just crystal drones of the main protagonists/antagonists with no actual intelligence or free-will - they were just crystal puppets basically).
So I wonder if Elidibus has resorted to making literal fake WoLs to set against us, being incapable of getting the actual WoLs from the four remaining Shards not yet Rejoined like G'raha did. It would still suit his ends either way, to sow more chaos and strife in the First, make it look like the 'Light' fighting back in Norvrandt, that the player's character is powerless to stop it. Much chaos and destruction occurs on the First, Light aether starts surging back to the Source, setting the Eighth Calamity and the Ascians' plans, back on track. Or so he would hope.
We'll find out in a few weeks either way.
The WoLs we see could very well just be simulacrums of ones he had encountered in the past and perhaps even attempted to stop him but failed. It is a little odd that the three who seem to serve as the bosses in the Hero's Gauntlet are decidedly more...normal-looking then the trash mobs and the ones who show up in the Crystal Tower; though perhaps it's because left more of a lasting impression on Elidibus and were thus easier to recreate.
Only time will tell indeed.
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Apparently Yoshida suggests to get a refresher on HW, I wonder what they can pull from there...


From the interview:
He wouldn't say you can take your time on it if it was relevant for the soon dropping Patch. I assume more like the direction for 5.4 onwards.Oh, and of course, you can totally take your time on this, but it might be a good idea to get a refresher on Heavensward.
Or maybe because of the supposed connection between Sapphire and Regula.
I'm taking Lore way too seriously. And I'm not sorry about that.



There's also Alex (relevant to the Exarch's means of getting to Novrant) and the Warring Triad (Unukhalai's connection to Elidibus)


In other parts of the interview, he clearly states the content he sees as supportive for general Lore like Omega. So I suppose he really is talking about Heavensward MSQ there.
I'm taking Lore way too seriously. And I'm not sorry about that.
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