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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    I though the Resistance Rank is the equivalent to the Elemental Levels of Eureka
    The live letter said that Resistance Storyline progress is not tied to the Leveling this time and players can just focus on entering the Resistance Map only for the Story quests.

    We can't determine if Resistance Ranks are the same as Elemental levels since currently they did not mention if stats are determined by the Resistance Ranks or our character level 80 default stats. It looks more like a system there to unlock Aether locations to teleport currently for players who want to lvl alts or obtain mats for Resistance Weapons.
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    Heh that Dragoon that takes out the airship is wearing the Eureka Elemental maiming helmet/set.
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    After watching and pausing the trailer at spots of curiosity several times, to me the light phantoms that come down by Elidibert all have radically different gear, though a lot of it is recognizable but seems to be coordinated glamour... I kind of wonder and sort of want to say that the secret trial will be a mirror fight for everyone who enters. We know they have the ability to scan our characters and create clones on the battlefield as early as Achamoth in Lost City of Amdapor Hard Mode, so that would be phase 1. Then Phase 2 would be the real boss, maybe Elidibert siphons up their dying souls, where the souls are shining brightest similar to what Moenbryda did to ensure Nabriales's death, only this time it's to juice up Elidibert.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoofiaBossVal View Post
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    Remember, the Source WoL (player) is 9 times rejoined; 9 times as much aether as WoLs from the other shards. @1:29, I can count 9 WoLs. If there are 9, the Source WoL may be evenly matched (if that is how we are calculating powerlevels). If there are up to 13 hostile WoLs, then Source WoL is outmatched 13 to 9, which aren't too bad odds. Plus, the WoL is being backed up by G'raha Tia. Then again, it looks like the Source WoL is also fighting against Elidibus at the same time, who is a whole 14/14. So... Source Wol 9/14 and G'raha Tia vs up to 13 1/14s + a 14/14 Elidibus. Oof. Looks like a big challenge.
    It's eight times rejoined, there's been seven calamities plus Ardbert rejoining his soul at the end of Amaurot so that makes 8 (it's 9 if you include the Source too, but that's not counted as Rejoinings are only the Shards, the Source is what was left of the original world after the Sundering and so is the 'base'. So we're 'eight' times rejoined.

    As for facing down an Unsundered Ascian, well, we've already done that twice already and both have fallen - although Lahabrea was only killed by Thordan consuming his soul as aether, and we only killed Emet by dumping all that corrupted Light aether we had absorbed as an Axe of Light to punch a hole in him (with Ardbert's help). But they both still ended up deader than dead despite their 'Unsundered' status.

    So being unsundered does not directly correllate to strength and resilience, if anything it makes them more prone to arrogance and thus makes their downfall all the more likely.
    Pride comes before the fall after all...

    And the trailer only shows just how
    prideful Elidibus is becoming - no longer the 'emmisary', he's falling into smug arrogant megalomania like all the other Ascians, even trying again the same trick he already tried once before that failed miserably (trying to manipulate other worlds' WoLs into fighting us). Eli, don't you know those who fail to learn from their past mistakes are doomed to forever repeat them?

    Incidentally I don't believe Exarch! G'raha actually dies when speared by Elidibert's dark magic - past trailers after all supposedly showing main story characters dying, turn out to be completely fine, or just a minor injury (remember Y'shtola apparently shown to be gutted like a fish by Zenos in the trailer for Stormblood, yet, despite being sidelined for much of SB's story, ended up getting better?). Yet characters who really do die, their death scene isn't shown in a trailer. Context is everything.

    So yeah, I expect our crystallizing Sharalyan friend to be fine, and not end up pulling an Aeris to an Ascian wearing an Ardbert-suit.
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    Last edited by Enkidoh; 07-23-2020 at 02:30 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    But it's not the same as last time. He's joining them directly this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    And the trailer only shows just how
    prideful Elidibus is becoming - no longer the 'emmisary', he's falling into smug arrogant megalomania like all the other Ascians, even trying again the same trick he already tried once before that failed miserably (trying to manipulate other worlds' WoLs into fighting us). Eli, don't you know those who fail to learn from their past mistakes are doomed to forever repeat them?

    Incidentally I don't believe Exarch! G'raha actually dies when speared by Elidibert's dark magic - past trailers after all supposedly showing main story characters dying, turn out to be completely fine, or just a minor injury (remember Y'shtola apparently shown to be gutted like a fish by Zenos in the trailer for Stormblood, yet, despite being sidelined for much of SB's story, ended up getting better?). Yet characters who really do die, their death scene isn't shown in a trailer. Context is everything.

    So yeah, I expect our crystallizing Sharalyan friend to be fine, and not end up pulling an Aeris to an Ascian wearing an Ardbert-suit.
    I have a feeling that
    what he did was basically "hack into" the Crystal Tower using the Exarch as the connection tool with that stab. The Exarch may either end up dead by our hands in order to end the WoL summonings and save our friends, or we're going to permanently sever the Exarch's connection to the Crystal Tower without killing him, which would halt all current summonings and prevent more from occurring, with only us left as being able to cross to the First due to our power.
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    Alright, Trailer time...

    MSQ
    Things are getting interesting. Massive death flags for the Exarch which I'm 50/50 about, I can see both his death and survival happening. Is that Hythlodaeus we go see in Amaurot? I think that the part that has someone stating they want to speak to us alone is not Elidibus. At least in german, I personally think the voice sounds different from Elidibus' voice later in the trailer.
    Also, please don't kill the last Ascian yet.
    At least no Zenos in Trailer!


    NieR Raid
    I don't know much about NieR, but it looks cool, I guess? Will be interesting to see why the Yorha didn't attack the dwarves before considering they did not just arrive.


    Sorrows of Werlyt
    Haha, I called the thing being built by the Ironworks! Looks cool, I'm happy to see they used the VII concept for Sapphire. Just said it gets killed off unceremoniously again.
    So, the blue haired Au Ra piloting it (Rex) looks pretty mad in the Echo-esque vision. Hope that doesn't make him do something reckless.


    Bozja
    Hey, cool, Adrammelech. Also that one Hrothgar has glowy blue eyes, is he possessed?




    My thoughts on Mystery Trial...
    The Trailer makes it look like it's going to be Elidibus and/or his Warriors of Light, but they said it's not something we would expect and why keep it that secret if you put obvious things in the Trailer?
    Since we see what I assume is Hythlodaeus, I think he is related to the Mystery Trial. The picture on the website shows but the faded out white dots on black ground, we have a similar screenshot there, with the Convocation members. Maybe something with Flashbacks? And the text says WoD is being tested like never before. Elidibus is past the point of testing, he just wants us gone. But maybe Hyth wants to, and if he is the one in the trailer to day he wants to speak with us alone...
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    I'm taking Lore way too seriously. And I'm not sorry about that.

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    Regarding Exarch:

    I have a feeling that that beautiful opening shot of the Crystal Tower is actually a far away shot of the moment we beat Elidibus and G'raha is taking control of the tower back and stopping the meteors... and crystallizing to death in the process.


    Quote Originally Posted by RicaRuin View Post
    My thoughts on Mystery Trial...
    The Trailer makes it look like it's going to be Elidibus and/or his Warriors of Light, but they said it's not something we would expect and why keep it that secret if you put obvious things in the Trailer?
    Since we see what I assume is Hythlodaeus, I think he is related to the Mystery Trial. The picture on the website shows but the faded out white dots on black ground, we have a similar screenshot there, with the Convocation members. Maybe something with Flashbacks? And the text says WoD is being tested like never before. Elidibus is past the point of testing, he just wants us gone. But maybe Hyth wants to, and if he is the one in the trailer to day he wants to speak with us alone...
    I'm with you on the mystery trial possibly being Amaurot/Ancients-related, considering the filter of the image for it looks a lot like the static-filled film grain we get when seeing the holovids of the Amaurotines turn on and off in Anamnesis Anyder.

    I do think its Elidibus who wants to "talk to you alone", though.
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    I have a hard time imagining what kind of scheming Elidibus would've had to have been doing to get a veritable army's worth of WoLs from other worlds to turn on us so readily.

    The fact that most of them are aglow with that strange aura of light makes me wonder if he's somehow manipulating them in a more direct manner using his Starshower foolery or some such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I have a hard time imagining what kind of scheming Elidibus would've had to have been doing to get a veritable army's worth of WoLs from other worlds to turn on us so readily.

    The fact that most of them are aglow with that strange aura of light makes me wonder if he's somehow manipulating them in a more direct manner using his Starshower foolery or some such.
    Or, it's just more smoke and mirrors just like his fake starshower. At least one of the 'WoLs' apparently shown in the trailer is just a glowing sillhouette, which someone else earlier mentioned looked much like the Manikins from the Dissidia games (which were just crystal drones of the main protagonists/antagonists with no actual intelligence or free-will - they were just crystal puppets basically).

    So I wonder if Elidibus has resorted to making literal fake WoLs to set against us, being incapable of getting the actual WoLs from the four remaining Shards not yet Rejoined like G'raha did. It would still suit his ends either way, to sow more chaos and strife in the First, make it look like the 'Light' fighting back in Norvrandt, that the player's character is powerless to stop it. Much chaos and destruction occurs on the First, Light aether starts surging back to the Source, setting the Eighth Calamity and the Ascians' plans, back on track. Or so he would hope.

    We'll find out in a few weeks either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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