"Elitism" vs "Casualism"

[Lucy_Pyre]

Lol - dancer aoe on 2 is higher potency than single target. And aoe procs are higher potency than single target 1 2, and is only not worth using if you're about to lose your timer on a single target proc

and yes, obviously I know regen and holy are good abilities, but regen is not always the "best" heal. Why regen 3 when you can put up a medica. And no, if a healer doesn't want to spam the shit out of holy because they aren't comfortable, I will absolutely vote along side them to kick that spammer. And as I pointed out before, i'm of the opinion that if someone uses poor wording, it is also their responsibility and compounds the rudeness of their "advice"

No one gets comfortable doing something without doing it to reach comfort. If someone says they aren't going to DPS and heal as a healer because they aren't comfortable then I'm simply going to suggest to them that they can't get comfortable doing it without doing it. I would much rather wipe once because the healer is stepping out of their comfort zone and trying to improve than simply have an issue-less, slow run because the healer is being a healbot doing zero damage.

[Laesha]

No one gets comfortable doing something without doing it to reach comfort. If someone says they aren't going to DPS and heal as a healer because they aren't comfortable then I'm simply going to suggest to them that they can't get comfortable doing it without doing it. I would much rather wipe once because the healer is stepping out of their comfort zone and trying to improve than simply have an issue-less, slow run because the healer is being a healbot doing zero damage.

Which is fine for you I suppose. Their performance is not that important to me.

[Daibunnie]

Which is fine for you I suppose. Their performance is not that important to me.

Your party member's performance isn't important to you? Wonder if it would be important if they started adding dps checks and enrages to normal dungeon bosses.

[RyuSaarva]

Your party member's performance isn't important to you? Wonder if it would be important if they started adding dps checks and enrages to normal dungeon bosses.

we already have those.

[Lucy_Pyre]

we already have those.

No we don't lmfao

You actually think content that isn't EX/savage/ultimate has actual, enrages? Dungeon bosses pretty much just infinitely repeat their mechanics after they've gone through the entire cycle of them, and while normal mode raids have *soft* enrages where the boss just spams raidwide damage over and over, it's still entirely possible to heal through that with halfway competent healers.

[RyuSaarva]

No we don't lmfao

You actually think content that isn't EX/savage/ultimate has actual, enrages? Dungeon bosses pretty much just infinitely repeat their mechanics after they've gone through the entire cycle of them, and while normal mode raids have *soft* enrages where the boss just spams raidwide damage over and over, it's still entirely possible to heal through that with halfway competent healers.

The last stromblood dungeon seems to have one and I am pretty sure some ARR level 50 dungeon had them too but I have not seen those in roulettes in a very long time.

[Laesha]

Your party member's performance isn't important to you? Wonder if it would be important if they started adding dps checks and enrages to normal dungeon bosses.

No. Random party members' performances would still not be important enough to me to say anything about it. I would just change how i approach the content, doing it with friends if failures became too common-place (they wouldn't. I rarely have a run of any dungeon content that deviates more than 3-5 minutes in either direction)

This is what I do in Guildwars 2 with content that is difficult to pug. It's what i have historically done when i've played savage and extreme content in this game as well.

[Daibunnie]

It's like I said, if the run is going fine what's the point in starting crap with someone by calling them out in front of the group? It's just spite at that point, and if the run is going fine I don't see any need to grind it to a halt just so you can get your revenge.

"Going fine" is subjective and I believe the majority will agree that a run isn't going fine if more resources that necessary are expended due to someone's inept skill.

It's one lazy healer you'll probably never see again. His punishment is the fact that everything he runs is going to take 5-10 minutes longer than it has to. If that's not good enough for you then do whatever you need to feel vindicated, but wait until after the run so you're not involving everyone else.

Excusing that one lazy healer means you're excusing all of them and advocating that they get carried rather than having their party members call them out on mistakes that they refuse to call out themselves.

If the content actually starts getting challenging then it'll make sense to feel like we need to elevate the community. As of right now all of the whining is just petty. The community as a whole is perfectly fine for the current difficulty of 90% of this games content.

Double standards much? Anyway, the fact that they nerfed content like Thunder God and Mist Dragon shows that the majority of the community isn't suited for content that involves some semblance of teamwork.

No. Random party members' performances would still not be important enough to me to say anything about it. I would just change how i approach the content, doing it with friends if failures became too common-place (they wouldn't. I rarely have a run of any dungeon content that deviates more than 3-5 minutes in either direction)

So it is important to you. You would just rather leave silently for a more competent party. Either way, be glad that a decent number of people would rather give free advice than immediately resorting to kicking problem players that'll most likely keep getting kicked otherwise.

[Laesha]

Again. No. The performance of other random players is not important to me. They are able to play however they want, and do whatever they want and I completely support that.

I just accept that completing my goals is my responsibility, not theirs.

And no, I take no joy in knowing that people will continue to give out unsolicited advice that is mostly bad, incorrect, or incomplete.

Edit - I find it particularly strange that people defend the "unsolicited" part so vehemently. All anyone ever has to do is ask "would you like some guidance with this?" "want to hear some cool tips for [insert job here]". Or as others have suggested, if there are several players "would anyone like some pointers on..." It's so easy. It's SO easy. If you get a "no", that's the end. Any additional advice is unsolicited and confirmed to be unwelcome. If you get a "yes" then suddenly the advice is solicited and you can go absolutely bananas. When i give advice, it is under these circumstances. Though in general I prefer people to just be quiet and play.

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