The tawdry female bosses are tiresome, and we could do with more male fanservice.

[xxvaynxx]

bruh tf.

Think what you will about TLOU2 (I have my own spicy opinions about it and I don't think all the designs are good), but Ellie's design in particular is fine. She's a young woman who grew up in a zombie apocalypse. She's pretty, but she's not going to be flouncing around in a dress with her knockers popping out. Aerith is also beautiful and a great design, but her beauty is quite literally unnatural.

I'm sorry your perception of female beauty has been so disturbingly warped and you find average looking women "fugly".

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Mild tangent aside, I'm not a fan of how OP worded it and I like my pretty lady bosses much as the next dude, but I agree that it would be nice to see some more fanservice for those that like men. It's very, VERY clear the market is there in the game considering the massive amounts of fanart and love for the male characters in this game.

Well I never said Ellie was ugly so get your panties out a bunch. I posted this for a comparison of how different designs are from JP devs to Western devs.
If I wanted to post something ugly I would have easily used something else. Goal wasn't to trash western female design, why I picked Ellie because shes the most popular.

What exactly are you trying to debate here with these two pictures? They do not compare. If you are going to do comparisons in the future you should do it with characters that are applicable.

Who makes you the know it all on this information of what 'gamers' care about, the YouTubers you watch?

See above. And they certainly do compare since they're made by two different types of devs. JP vs Western character design.
I was using "most" for a reason because I knew someone was gonna get offended some how and come in with the "well you can't speak for me".

[Krotoan]

Well I never said Ellie was ugly so get your panties out a bunch. I posted this for a comparison of how different designs are from JP devs to Western devs.
If I wanted to post something ugly I would have easily used something else. Goal wasn't to trash western female design, why I picked Ellie because shes the most popular.


See above. And they certainly do compare since they're made by two different types of devs. JP vs Western character design.
I was using "most" for a reason because I knew someone was gonna get offended some how and come in with the "well you can't speak for me".

Then why say this

Stopped making attractive female characters and really only make the males attractive while all the females tend to be pretty freaking fuggly with B cups to make sure its not too sexy because the "NOOO HER BACK WILL HURT" meme.

and then choose that picture?
It did seem to be your main point.

[Driavna]

Then why say this


and then choose that picture?
It did seem to be your main point.

There is a tendency from western games to make female characters look like a man and to remove feminine traits. Officially, is to make it more realistic and on par with your average "Jane" but I doubt it. Sometimes they use real actors, for male characters they keep said actor looks intact, but for females, is usually changed and no one can't tell me that a woman doesn't look like a "real" woman.

Characters at TLoU 2, at least body-wise, look like they are supposed to. Face wise I stand by my first point.

[Krotoan]

There is a tendency from western games to make female characters look like a man and to remove feminine traits. Officially, is to make it more realistic and on par with your average "Jane" but I doubt it. Sometimes they use real actors, for male characters they keep said actor looks intact, but for females, is usually changed and no one can't tell me that a woman doesn't look like a "real" woman.

Characters at TLoU 2, at least body-wise, look like they are supposed to. Face wise I stand by my first point.

Just because you don't find the characters particularly attractive doesn't mean they "look like a man". Abbys body and face are definitely based on 2 different people.. but they're both women.

[Driavna]

Just because you don't find the characters particularly attractive doesn't mean they "look like a man". Abbys body and face are definitely based on 2 different people.. but they're both women.

Looking like a man does not have anything to do with finding a character attractive but the way it looks based on masculine/feminine traits. But perhaps masculine will be a more accurate word.

As a personal request don't assume stuff I haven't say. I never talked about being attractive, I talk about how they look.

Bonus: To me, Abby is the more appealing character in the hot mess that it is TLoU 2.

[Krotoan]

Looking like a man does not have anything to do with finding a character attractive but the way it looks based on masculine/feminine traits. But perhaps masculine will be a more accurate word.

As a personal request don't assume stuff I haven't say. I never talked about being attractive, I talk about how they look.

Bonus: To me, Abby is the more appealing character in the hot mess that it is TLoU 2.

What masculine traits do the female characters in TLoU2 have?

[xxvaynxx]

What masculine traits do the female characters in TLoU2 have?

Abby for sure and before you say "Well shes modeled after a female"
Saying someone is masculine doesn't mean someone is a man or we're calling said person a man. Being Masculine or feminine has nothing to do with gender.

Though I'm done with this argument as we're derailing the thread because we're not even talking about the point of the thread now.