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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    If they ever make another MMO I'd like an entirely new world. All the classics we know and enjoyed, ff7, 8, 9, 10, Ivalice and so on came into existence because they decided to create a new story, characters and world. I like a little fanservice here and there, and FF has plenty of little staples that are nice to see, but it'd be a shame if the future of FF is just reusing past glories.
    If they got their writers, like Matsuno and Oda, together, I am sure they could come up with a compelling new world, but even so I'd like to see inspiration taken from Ivalice in terms of how it dealt with political intrigue and the like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    You do realized that a lot of imported (translated version) Japanese games NA getting the content is "gimped" or "SJW" proofed right?
    They are not original any more.
    A lot of characters lost their original characteristics compares to their JP version
    PSO has to wait until 10 years later to even reach to NA, what a joke
    I'm... not sure where you're getting PSO didn't release because of spooky SJW and their massive power over things. It likely didn't release because, again, they don't see a market for it. Attributing to right wing boogeyman what is more simply corporate greed or shortsightedness is pretty silly, and indicative of a massive inability to accurately perceive reality.

    And translated things are different from the original, surprising. Complaining it's not in Japanese is... certainly a take, but pretty silly. Probably someone who complains about dubs over subs.
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    I would prefer the next game to have its own original setting, again. And I think it would be hard to make an excuse for all of the races of Final Fantasy Online to be in Ivalice. I don't think there have ever been Au Ra, Roegadyn, or Lalafell in Ivalice before, aside from the region in the World of Hydaelyn.

    But if they could find an excuse, I wouldn't be terribly against it. I wouldn't want the next Final Fantasy Online to be missing any of its traditional races, though.
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    i hope the next FF MMO is notthing like FFXIV including the Wow formula, but something unique ant rhe battle system also
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    i definitely want original setting, and probably a modern fantasy setting like xenoblade chronicles x for example.

    have a feeling when cyberpunk come out later, the general tone of video games theme will shift toward modern style (high tech, cyberpunk, futuristic, etc)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jkap_Goat View Post
    i hope the next FF MMO is notthing like FFXIV including the Wow formula, but something unique ant rhe battle system also
    True innovation will require a company to take some risks and get it right. The risk is high and the potential loss in profit is probably too great so I don't see that happening for awhile.
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    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jkap_Goat View Post
    FFXIV including the Wow formula
    I, personally, am very lethargic of the themepark formula. It would be very nice to see a sandbox MMORPG with the polish of Final Fantasy. I supported the idea of Final Fantasy XIV becoming more like EVE Online in the 1.0 days. But was rebuffed by many in the community saying that EVE was too niche.

    That I'm still afraid of. That Square Enix would think it too risky, still. But I would love to play something that were as open as EVE, but without the confusing nature of EVE, as something easier for players to understand like Final Fantasy XIV. As well as the great Fantasy aesthetic sense and lorebuilding of Final Fantasy XIV. Or, for that matter, something akin in some ways to the better aspects or features of ArcheAge or Black Desert Online, without the monetization practices of either game or company.

    I think that both of those games would be more successful with Final Fantasy XIV's monetization sensibilities, and design sensibilities in general. I think that the genre needs some change, and people are growing tired of the themepark formula. Sandbox games like Minecraft are now very popular. And the MMORPG community has been asking for more sandbox games for a bit of time, now. To the point that some are going out of their way to fund sandbox style online RPGs on Kickstarter.

    If nothing else, Final Fantasy hasn't been afraid to reinvent itself over the years. It would be nice to see that desire to innovate in the Online RPG sphere. Faults of Final Fantasy XIV 1.0 aside, that kind of reckless ambition and passion is something that I can respect. 1.0's retainer system, for instance, was a daring attempt at immersion that didn't go over well. But I revere that kind of passion to take chances and do something different. Especially in a genre that has become so standardized, instanced, and unimmersive. I want someone to think outside of the box and try to redefine what it means to be an MMORPG. I wish more people were interested in creating immersive virtual worlds, rather than filling checkboxes of previous successful games.

    Personally, my dream game would be for the next Final Fantasy game to be an innovative VRMMORPG that tries to redefine the entire genre, and focused on immersion and creating a believable virtual world before all else. Final Fantasy XI's airship system, and 1.0's planned airship system was a lot more immersive and believable than 2.0+'s airship system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MirronTulaxia View Post
    I'm... not sure where you're getting PSO didn't release because of spooky SJW and their massive power over things. It likely didn't release because, again, they don't see a market for it. Attributing to right wing boogeyman what is more simply corporate greed or shortsightedness is pretty silly, and indicative of a massive inability to accurately perceive reality.

    And translated things are different from the original, surprising. Complaining it's not in Japanese is... certainly a take, but pretty silly. Probably someone who complains about dubs over subs.
    I suggest blocking/ignoring them. The second they threw out that 3 letter abbreviation, they proved they are not willing to partake in honest debate. It's a red flag, and I suggest you heed it and don't even bother, they're not worth your time or energy.
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  9. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    I suggest blocking/ignoring them. The second they threw out that 3 letter abbreviation, they proved they are not willing to partake in honest debate. It's a red flag, and I suggest you heed it and don't even bother, they're not worth your time or energy.
    Oh, I’m just pointing out their nonsense. It’s more a form of comedy than anything that takes serious effort on my end.
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    It's not the best or most constructive term to use to describe what is going on in the world at present, perhaps, though I'd be baffled if someone were to claim that there hasn't been an active effort to censor quite a bit of things related to games not because they need to be censored but because of some very bitter individuals on social media deliberately going out of their way to petition for things that they dislike to be 'canceled' or censored. So, if we're talking about having discussions in good faith then I'd be very curious to see that particular point addressed.

    Censorship is a necessity to a degree, though it is a very fine line as to where that 'degree' stands. Nobody expects FFXIV to, for example, display extremely graphic blood and gore. That wouldn't be a reasonable expectation - but when people start asking for things to be adjusted in case it might 'offend' someone, then that leads to a very slippery slope. Such movements don't typically stop at book-burning and the digital equivalent, after all.
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