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    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by EtherRose View Post
    I would love to see them create another MMO revolving around Ivalice with the style being FFT/Tree of Savior.
    Agree, where encounters can have a strategic flare to it. I don't mind XIV's "spam dps" focus but this...stuff like this brings out real character


    The problem with strategic battle systems is the amount of balancing required, Tree of savior suffered from easy enemy design at the beginning and repetitive battle encounters; the enemy's AI would have to a more dynamic design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MirronTulaxia View Post
    I would say that alone puts the idea of a non FF MMO to rest honestly. DQ is easily one of the bigger names SE has, and with how the latest DQ did it still isn’t enough to get them to translate it.
    I dunno man, Persona had a successful worldwide MMO for many years.
    That's not a SQEX property, but does show that MMOs based on JRPGs less popular than Final Fantasy can survive and thrive in the competitive MMO market.
    SE just has to figure out which branch to go out on if it wants that fruit.
    (Also, the main reason DQ doesn't have a lot of interest in the West is primarily self sabotage)
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    If they ever make another MMO I'd like an entirely new world. All the classics we know and enjoyed, ff7, 8, 9, 10, Ivalice and so on came into existence because they decided to create a new story, characters and world. I like a little fanservice here and there, and FF has plenty of little staples that are nice to see, but it'd be a shame if the future of FF is just reusing past glories.
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    I honestly feel like XIV leans a little too much on other FF games rather often; the Ivalice raids being the biggest example to date. It's able to at least stand on its own feet when it comes to the MSQ, but I'm still wishing they had more completely original storylines like the Void Ark stuff that expand on established lore/locales.

    Xi comparatively borrowed very little from other FFs aside from the staple recurring monsters, spells, summons, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I honestly feel like XIV leans a little too much on other FF games rather often; the Ivalice raids being the biggest example to date. It's able to at least stand on its own feet when it comes to the MSQ, but I'm still wishing they had more completely original storylines like the Void Ark stuff.

    Xi comparatively borrowed very little from other FFs aside from the staple recurring monsters, spells, summons, etc.
    1.0 was an attempt to tread new ground (same races from XI tweaked a bit aside) and that didn’t do too well. Regardless of how much better the current writing and directing talent could do something new, the suits at SE might see this “2.0 was a FF theme park and it was successful” as a way of doing things going forward and something to lean on to bring people in. It takes a lot of money to develop things nowadays so big companies are less likely to take what they view as risks compared to 2 decades ago.

    It’s working too, my brother and a friend only decided to play FFXIV after the Ivalice raid was added. They both independently were super into that world and have played all the games in the setting including the more obscure ones like Crimson Shroud, Revenant Wings, and Vagrant Story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I honestly feel like XIV leans a little too much on other FF games rather often

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    Xi comparatively borrowed very little from other FFs aside from the staple recurring monsters, spells, summons, etc.
    I agree with you in that 14 leans a little too much on other FF games, but you need to keep in mind that when FF11 came out it was pretty widely critized for "not feeling" like a Final Fantasy game.
    14 leaning harder onto the other games and the franchises traditional elements is a pretty direct response to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    I dunno man, Persona had a successful worldwide MMO for many years.
    That's not a SQEX property, but does show that MMOs based on JRPGs less popular than Final Fantasy can survive and thrive in the competitive MMO market.
    SE just has to figure out which branch to go out on if it wants that fruit.
    (Also, the main reason DQ doesn't have a lot of interest in the West is primarily self sabotage)
    Correction, Shin Megami Tensei had a successful worldwide MMO for many years. Persona is a sub-series spinoff of the Shin Megami Tensei series, just like the 2 Digital Devil Saga games, the Devil Summoner games, the Devil Survivor games, etc.
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    Well, I don't think it's a coincidence that WoW and XIV have been doing so well when both make it a point to reference past characters/plot points in their respective franchises. I haven't played WoW in years but my most enthusiastic period of play was from the Vanillla to WOTLK era, because that was the era of the game that aligned with what I enjoyed of Warcraft 3 and wanted to experience in an MMO.

    Equally, the Ivalice games are among my favourite JRPG's and XIV leaning heavily on Ivalice is one of the reasons I like it so much. I can appreciate the original content as well as the other references too. Though I don't think XIV would have gripped me as much if it hadn't embraced so much of what made the Ivalice games so great to me.
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    Honestly I would much prefer a new universe if they made a new FF MMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MirronTulaxia View Post
    Lol. That is the wildest take ever. Yes, SJW's and their love for *checks notes* "anti-gravity". Very important. Please, continue sharing such wildly insightful thoughts. Maybe next you'll blame them for Ultimecia's goal of time compression or other feats of dimensional manipulation.
    You do realized that a lot of imported (translated version) Japanese games NA getting the content is "gimped" or "SJW" proofed right?
    They are not original any more.
    A lot of characters lost their original characteristics compares to their JP version
    PSO has to wait until 10 years later to even reach to NA, what a joke
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    Last edited by Divinemights; 07-15-2020 at 06:18 AM.

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