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    It was said earlier in this thread, by someone(i forget whom) but i'll re say it

    Level syn +PL is busted
    I level syn to a level 10 person, I have a pl with me, the pl one shots everything, getting 500+ exp each kill.

    no need for level syn for that reason..... Also why would I join a level 10 party with half my combos and skills. Why would I join any level syn party when i'm 50. I would just get bored and start to pl them, because really, we know that will be faster and you don't have to RE LEVEL those levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    It was said earlier in this thread, by someone(i forget whom) but i'll re say it

    Level syn +PL is busted
    I level syn to a level 10 person, I have a pl with me, the pl one shots everything, getting 500+ exp each kill.

    no need for level syn for that reason..... Also why would I join a level 10 party with half my combos and skills. Why would I join any level syn party when i'm 50. I would just get bored and start to pl them, because really, we know that will be faster and you don't have to RE LEVEL those levels.
    This guy!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    HAHAHA... people are still arguing over level sync... Why do you people want it again?

    Let's be all the way real... With how level sync would work...
    If my brother starting playing this game today.... and there was level sync
    I'd sync to his level and start killing Marmots...
    after 5 marmots I'd be like F$%& this...
    And jump on my 50.... he'd engage a level 8 MOB... I'd one shot it.. rinse and repeat....

    Ahh... but thats not to say level sync would be ignored.....
    By the time he got to Level 10, he'd find a level 1 to party and sync with.... and then its back to slaughtering Wharf rats and sewer moles....

    ok.. so make it so the lowest you can sink to is 20.. then I'd PL him to 30, he'd find someone L20 to sync to.. get them to 30, find someone elses 20... and so on... Never having to fight ANYTHING that my level 50 can't 1 shot

    so yea... bring on level sync.... so we, as a community can exploit the shit out of it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    It was said earlier in this thread, by someone(i forget whom) but i'll re say it

    Level syn +PL is busted
    I level syn to a level 10 person, I have a pl with me, the pl one shots everything, getting 500+ exp each kill.I agree. Introduce level sync, get rid of PL.

    no need for level syn for that reason..... Also why would I join a level 10 party with half my combos and skills. Why would I join any level syn party when i'm 50.If you have a friend that's starting and you want to spiritbond. If you want to re-experience content as it was meant to be experienced (Sposhae, Toto-Rak). C'mon, you've been in this thread since the beginning, this question has already been answered multiple times. I would just get bored and start to pl themBecause that's so much more fun?, because really, we know that will be faster and you don't have to RE LEVEL those levels.You don't have to but you might want to if you had a friend that just started. Your friend might also not want a PL, but might also want to fight with people around their level even when you aren't around.
    Level sync should benefit new players more than experienced players, but experienced players should still have an incentive to bringing their level down to that of their companions.
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    Who has two thumbs and thinks new players should spin on it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    This guy!!!!!
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    It may come as a surprise to some, like Rhomagus has pointed out, not everyone wants to be PL'd and not everyone wants to PL other people.
    Where did that anti-PL thread go, it was heated! http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...el+power+level

    In fact I think i'll bump it after this.

    There are a lot of people who are against PL. And would like to see it abolished. Level Sync is a step in a better direction than PL.


    Hey! What about this:

    NO PL, No Level Sync. FFXIV is a lv 1 -10 game. everyone gets to play with everyone else. The end.

    THis is what PL does. It makes FFXIV lv 40-50 only. PL 1-40 PT 40-50. So whats the point of 1-39?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee View Post
    It may come as a surprise to some, like Rhomagus has pointed out, not everyone wants to be PL'd and not everyone wants to PL other people.
    Where did that anti-PL thread go, it was heated! http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...el+power+level

    In fact I think i'll bump it after this.

    There are a lot of people who are against PL. And would like to see it abolished. Level Sync is a step in a better direction than PL.
    I don't mean to belittle your point... but saying "not everyone would exploit the system in this way" is not really a good argument

    If they decided that promethazine or codeine should be sold over the counter... i know many people that would take them responsibly and not abuse them. That DOES NOT make it a good idea

    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee View Post
    Hey! What about this:

    NO PL, No Level Sync. FFXIV is a lv 1 -10 game. everyone gets to play with everyone else. The end.

    THis is what PL does. It makes FFXIV lv 40-50 only. PL 1-40 PT 40-50. So whats the point of 1-39?
    You are trying to reinforce your point by making some absurd extreme, hyperbole riddled reassertion of the counterpoint. Nice try
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    My new Mantra:

    Abolish PL, add Level Sync.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee View Post
    My new Mantra:

    Abolish PL, add Level Sync.
    Thats a tough one... see power leveling is technically not a game mechanic....

    Power leveling is a symptom... not the disease....

    The new "claiming system" is what allowed players to power level

    Under the old system... I claim a MOB... and if someone in my party kills another MOB after I claimed the first MOB... we wouldn't get exp or items. You could only claim one MOB at a time.

    This was actually one of the few times that the entire community agreed... we all screamed at how unfair it was. We wanted to be able to claim more than one MOB.... It was glaringly bad in a leve or instance.... Why would you not be able to claim multiple MOBs in a leve when they are all technically your MOBs... it was idiotic, honestly

    But at no point... not one point from launch to 1.19 did anyone ask to be able to attack a MOB that was already claimed by someone else.... But apparently that slipped in as a rider to the "Claim multiple MOBs bill"

    To recap... NO ONE asked to be able to attack MOBs claimed by someone else... EVERYONE asked to be able to claim more than one MOB....

    I don't know if it was miscommunication or just Yoshi's vision... But for power leveling to die... the claiming system would need to be drastically altered... AGAIN.....

    But to your point... yes I'd like to see PL gone...

    and with no PL.. I have no feelings for or against level sync...
    WITH PL, I am highly against level sync

    So i guess you can take that as me agreeing with you
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    <off topic: Lol, I filed a bug report during alpha 1 about only getting skill points for mobs that were "red" and reduced or no skill points for mobs that were attacked while "yellow" Everyone on the alpha forums told me I was wrong.>

    I've said it several times throughout this thread, but it was over looked or ignored.

    Only 1 rule needs to be changed to the claim system.

    Only allow claimed mobs be attackable by the PT that claims it.

    One simple rule. In fact, I believe it's already in place for when you claim a NM.
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    This means if a lv 50 tries to PL a lv 20 PT the mobs that lv 50 gathers and then drops PT, are either claimed by him and the lv 20 PT gets no exp. or the mobs are claimed by the lv 20 PT and the lv 50 can't attack. If anyone is -10 lower than the highest person gets no exp.

    keep all other rules the same.

    This will stop any abuse that syncing down would incur.
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    Last edited by ChiefCurrahee; 02-02-2012 at 04:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee View Post
    <off topic: Lol, I filed a bug report during closed alpha about only getting skill points for mobs that were "red" Everyone told me i was wrong.>

    I've said it several times throughout this thread, but it was over looked or ignored.

    Only 1 rule needs to be changed to the claim system.

    Only allow claimed mobs be attackable by the PT that claims it.

    One simple rule. In fact, I believe it's already in place for when you claim a NM.

    keep all other rules the same.

    This will stop any abuse that syncing down would incur.
    The current free-for-all system was introduced solely for the purpose of allowing power-leveling to help your friends.

    I for one hate being power-leveled, as it's extremely boring, but I see nothing wrong with the current system. Fighting mobs is still easier in my eyes.
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