Sick of ARR Ex fights in mentor roulette

[SamRF]

Are mentors supposed to know all ex trials mechanics off the top of their head or something? Imo seems really stupid and silly to have any high-end content in a roulette. I wonder if anyone has ever completed old synced high-end content in duty finder outside of the "High-End" section. You can't get a random DF team to coordinate, learn the fight and also finish it before the timer. Those duties usually take many PF practice runs before they can get completed by the average player, makes no sense at all imo to encourage those instances in DF.

[HeulGDarian]

Are mentors supposed to know all ex trials mechanics off the top of their head or something? Imo seems really stupid and silly to have any high-end content in a roulette. I wonder if anyone has ever completed old synced high-end content in duty finder outside of the "High-End" section. You can't get a random DF team to coordinate, learn the fight and also finish it before the timer. Those duties usually take many PF practice runs before they can get completed by the average player, makes no sense at all imo to encourage those instances in DF.

You know you guys are overestimating the arr ex trials, the least clearable one ramuh has like 4 mechanics : tank swap, Fear cleansing ,Adds ,Chains. You can make an arguement that having to pick orbs to lower ramuh dmg is also one but its something that can be done by one person , and wouldnt you know thats an easy requirement to fulfill.

For level 60s sure it has more merit , but heck 2 of them have been powercreeped so hard they are easier than normal (ravanna , bismark) , the rest are problematic if people ignore your help or they are french and you dont have a translator to help you. I have cleared as of now in mentor rlt sophia ex , thordan ex and nidhogg ex. i think i have gotten at least 30-40 commends with how many times ive cleared nidhogg, heck one of them was with no echo.

I have gotten level 70 , susano and lakshimi they are as easy as ravanna and bishmark and the only one that ive been getting consistently is the dumb rathalos fight , which as ive previously said i clear 9 times out of 10 but still is a hellah annoying fight.

So for fucks sake lets not act like new peeps have 3 brain cells cause i swear ive seen more good new players than good expert rlt players. and im gonna throw this in as well i dont think all these ACCESSIBILITY changes is the reason as to why new players are good , i think ACCESSIBILITY changes simply gave more incentive for lazy people to be even more lazy.

[RokkuEkkusu]

You know you guys are overestimating the arr ex trials, the least clearable one ramuh has like 4 mechanics : tank swap, Fear cleansing ,Adds ,Chains. You can make an arguement that having to pick orbs to lower ramuh dmg is also one but its something that can be done by one person , and wouldnt you know thats an easy requirement to fulfill.

Do you know why Ramuh EX is the least clearable one synced in Mentor Roulette? It's because the tank swap AND the "pick the 3 orbs" mechanics for Shock Strike is heavily tank dependent. If the tank does not have the 3 orbs to have the "Surge Protection" buff, the tank will get one-shotted by Shock Strike. To make things much worse, Shock Strike ignores and goes through tank immunity effects. Should the tank get one-shotted from Shock Strike, most runs usually snowball into a wipe from there.

Let's not even get to the part where people tend to get uncoordinated for fear cleansing. It's bad enough people are bad at this mechanic in the Hard story version. Not cleansing here in Extreme mode will be fatal for the ones who don't have the Surge Protection buff.

Finally, the tether mechanics requires only one person of the tethered pair to get 3 orbs. Letting the tethers remain is more punishing in Extreme mode when synced. Don't forget that tanks still need their surge protection buff from getting 3 orbs.

Coordinating these mechanics synced in a random pug group via roulette is extremely difficult for the average person.

[KageTokage]

Do you know why Ramuh EX is the least clearable one synced in Mentor Roulette? It's because the tank swap AND the "pick the 3 orbs" mechanics for Shock Strike is heavily tank dependent. If the tank does not have the 3 orbs to have the "Surge Protection" buff, the tank will get one-shotted by Shock Strike. To make things much worse, Shock Strike ignores and goes through tank immunity effects. Should the tank get one-shotted from Shock Strike, most runs usually snowball into a wipe from there.

Let's not even get to the part where people tend to get uncoordinated for fear cleansing. It's bad enough people are bad at this mechanic in the Hard story version. Not cleansing here in Extreme mode will be fatal for the ones who don't have the Surge Protection buff.

Finally, the tether mechanics requires only one person of the tethered pair to get 3 orbs. Letting the tethers remain is more punishing in Extreme mode when synced. Don't forget that tanks still need their surge protection buff from getting 3 orbs.

Coordinating these mechanics synced in a random pug group via roulette is extremely difficult for the average person.

I've gotten Ramuh EX three times as a tank, which made the swapping mostly a non-issue, but never managed to clear on any of the attempts because people were doing too little DPS to prevent wipes to the add phase and/or not dispelling the charm properly even after I designated a waymarker for the charm-targeted players to move to in order to make locating them easier.

I have also cleared all extremes in mentor roulette multiple times, you just have to mentor and not whine and complain.

That and pray you get people who are actually competent, because explaining a fight is one thing, but having people who can both play their jobs properly and follow instructions is something else entirely.

The only EXs I've cleared consistently are Ultima Weapon, Garuda, Ravana, and Bismark as they get melted by the bloated ilvls and most of their mechanics get skipped; though even Garuda has failed before due to getting stuck with a gungho sprout tank who refuses to follow directions and doesn't separate the adds...on multiple occasions.

I've gotten a few clears of Leviathan and Shiva EX though it was heavily dependent on having other mentors in the tank/healer roles.

Everything else was a total wash.

[RyuSaarva]

Garuda X was actually one of the hardest things to ever clear for me because I always got tanks who stacked the adds no matter what you tried to type in the chat, not sure if the game is so easy now that you can survive the ultimate spell if you fail to kill them.

[RyuSaarva]

Are mentors supposed to know all ex trials mechanics off the top of their head or something? Imo seems really stupid and silly to have any high-end content in a roulette. I wonder if anyone has ever completed old synced high-end content in duty finder outside of the "High-End" section. You can't get a random DF team to coordinate, learn the fight and also finish it before the timer. Those duties usually take many PF practice runs before they can get completed by the average player, makes no sense at all imo to encourage those instances in DF.

Yes I have and duty finder was better for clearing stuff than party finder during ARR and most of these fights are multiple times easier now and you cannot even unlock mentor roulette without doing them, I have also cleared all extremes in mentor roulette multiple times, you just have to mentor and not whine and complain.