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  1. #221
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    SamSmoot's Avatar
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    Fugu Barr
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    Exodus
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    No other dungeons lock you in cutscenes.
    When I first ran these, I kept hammering the ESC key hundreds of time, afraid that I'd be kicked for wasting the group's time by watching them (I recently come from WoW) If it were possible to skip the scenes in these mandatory dungeons, some method would be required to protect new player's opportunity to view them, but not delay the progress of those that have run them many times.

    Perhaps give players an option to group with new players and view the scenes again, for extra rewards. Even leave the experienced folks out of the cutscenes, but frozen, and let them type advice in chat for the new players about to run the next stage. If you choose to skip the scenes, then you don't get grouped with anyone who hasn't seen them yet.
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    Last edited by SamSmoot; 07-07-2020 at 08:53 PM.

  2. #222
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    gumas's Avatar
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    Rawon Special
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 100
    to be honest iam fine with MSQ DF cutscene lock, it give me time to take a small break or just alt tab and browse internet while wait.

    this game try it best to help, guide and give it best welcome mat for new players so i can understand they lock the cutscene for MSQ DF considering the praetorium is basically the ARR finale.

    if you want to make sure other than MSQ dungeon didnt lock you in cutscene, just go to option and check those "auto skip cutscene if already seen" option
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  3. #223
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    Vidu's Avatar
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SamSmoot View Post
    Perhaps give players an option to group with new players and view the scenes again, for extra rewards. Even leave the experienced folks out of the cutscenes, but frozen, and let them type advice in chat for the new players about to run the next stage. If you choose to skip the scenes, then you don't get grouped with anyone who hasn't seen them yet.
    (Emphasis mine)

    We already have extra rewards for people who run those dungeons again - its the huge payout the mainstory roulette gives once a day. Unless you want to make a case to give that kind of reward multiple times a day, its already there. Whenever this topic comes up, people forget that they're already getting compensated for the time they spent in those cutscenes - I could get behind just locking people in place but out of the cutscenes, but honestly: The cutscenes auto-scroll now. The difference between that and being locked in place outside of the cutscene seem rather minimal to me. Typing in chat is enterily possible while in a cutscene (just hit "Enter" to bring up the chat-window). Doing something else is enterily possible while in a cutscene.

    Getting the option not to be grouped with new people (aka those who havent seen the cutscenes yet), defeats the purpose of the whole roulette. You're there to help those new people through the dungeon, thats the whole purpose. Thats what you get your reward for: For being willing to sit through these cutscenes.
    People dont run those dungeons for progression outside of the MSQ-roulette anymore and the progression granted by the MSQ-roulette is only as good as it is right now because they're taking into account how long the dungeon will take. If that would be shortend in any way - for example by allowing for "skip cutscene"-groups - the reward would need to be adjusted to reflect the effort.
    MSQ-roulette is excatly what you're suggesting: Going through the cutscenes again for extra rewards.
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  4. #224
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    GeminiReed's Avatar
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    Alys Isshu
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    Malboro
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    Summoner Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Veteran players still have the other roulettes for leveling alt jobs and getting tomestones.
    That's extremely situational.

    The current Expert Roulette is perfect for capping Allegory. The prior mix not so much. I rarely bothered with the 80 roulette unless a guild mate wanted to run it. For obvious reasons neither can currently be used for levelling.

    Alliance Roulette is often a disaster. If you get a CT raid there's a better than even chance there will be enough "herp-derp mechanics are for cars" folks to cause multiple wipes. Later raids come up rarely enough for people to have forgotten or never learned the mechanics. These days I'll only queue for it if I'm desperate or hanging out with guildmates.

    50/60/70, Trials, and normal raids simply aren't worth the bother for xp and even for poetics they're questionable.

    Which leaves levelling. There are some very thin time windows where the DPS queues are only mildly atrocious. And if you're willing to wait out the 30+ minute queue you're essentially glued to the computer in case the queue pops earlier than the estimate.

    While there are some things you can do while you wait the options are severely limited. Any duty that involves an instance is prohibited. Lengthy cutscenes are risky and apparently some prevent you from accepting the pop. Area transitions are also risky. I've had the game client get confused when the queue popped while moving between areas and it got stuck spinning waiting for the next area to resolve so I could click the accept button.

    That doesn't even get into the jobs and roles that I'm not at all comfortable playing with randoms. That's a mix of me not wanting to inflict myself on them and not wanting to put up with certain misbehavior.
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