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    Quote Originally Posted by HeulGDarian View Post

    if you feel like doing blu so you need to join a discord server or ls or some friends in order to get help or get lucky in pf

    Blue is extremely fun and despite all the hate it gets id prefer that they give us more limited jobs so that we can enjoy old content that we missed and even if we have done its a different experience as blu since the tools allow for different strategies. I dont think blu will ever get unlimited and it shouldnt
    are there any discord recommendations?

    why does it get hate? because of the limited content?
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    Quote Originally Posted by L-Lihzeh View Post
    are there any discord recommendations?

    why does it get hate? because of the limited content?
    it gets hate cause its a fan favourite job but cant play with the other jobs in the higher end content, not that those that complain about it do such kind of content =w=, its just people REEEEing all over. Also i only have a link for EU discord idk if i can post it here though they could probably show you a link for other servers
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeulGDarian View Post
    it gets hate cause its a fan favourite job but cant play with the other jobs in the higher end content, not that those that complain about it do such kind of content =w=, its just people REEEEing all over. Also i only have a link for EU discord idk if i can post it here though they could probably show you a link for other servers
    Thats an incredible over generalisation you just made there lmao which reeks if personal bias, for myself I run all kinds of endgame content as does everyone i know in game, and they all complain about it. You dont need to lie about people to talk about things you like. I could just as easily say everyone Ive seen defending BLU as fun hasnt even stepped into end game content/ is bad at it, but I know that isnt correct despite it being my experience, because in sure there does exist people that dont fit my description.
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    Savage Completion Rate ~5%+ of active players. Community: "Ugh stop catering to savage"
    Ultimate Completion Rate ~1% of active players. Community: "Ugh stop catering to the hardcore raiders"
    Frontline/ Rival Wings/ Hidden Gorge Mount Aquisition ~0.05-1% of active players. Community: "Ugh PVP is so dead in this game, they should stop investing in it"
    Blue Mage Morbol Mount Aquisition ~0.01% of active players. Community: "WoW bLuE mAgE iS sO fUn AnD aCtIvE i CaN't WaIt FoR mOrE lImItEd JoBs"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReiMakoto View Post
    Thats an incredible over generalisation you just made there lmao which reeks if personal bias, for myself I run all kinds of endgame content as does everyone i know in game, and they all complain about it. You dont need to lie about people to talk about things you like. I could just as easily say everyone Ive seen defending BLU as fun hasnt even stepped into end game content/ is bad at it, but I know that isnt correct despite it being my experience, because in sure there does exist people that dont fit my description.
    I dont know if it counts but i did get the morbol and i have gotten into savage not way too deep though id say maybe knees deep, and also alot of people that i know like blue , im just saying that most comments in the forums are people REEEEing , generally its about not being able to do content with other jobs specifically there is always someone that will say it cant raid with other jobs , alot of people will agree yet alot of them havent done raiding anyways ,its the usual group mentality of the forums, you can call me biased cause i like the job , i do try to be as objective as i can though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeulGDarian View Post
    i guess i shouldnt call it higher end content , idk how to really call it though, i didnt mean savage super savage i meant like higher level stuff basicly content just on the higher level , see why i got confused? ^^".
    Well im even more confused then lol, if youre talking about Eureka or like Ex roulletes then theres even less argument here and more people ive seen wanting them there because their "balance" is already very loose. Eitherway you're straw manning the complaint crowd pretty hard, most of them are incredibly reasonable.

    Edit: Considering you changed your entire post in an edit (pretty rude) I guess I should respond again.

    Good for you on clearing, the point of my comment wasnt to insult anyone ,I was showing how ridiculous you were being by generalizing like that. You say its mostly REEEing is not you being objective, as someone who uses those threads whenever they are active, the REEing these days is an absolute minimum and they are actually some pretty fun discussion threads with people talking about balance implications and the such. You say youre trying to be objective but your post so far had been subjective conjecture.
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    Last edited by ReiMakoto; 07-07-2020 at 07:15 PM.
    Savage Completion Rate ~5%+ of active players. Community: "Ugh stop catering to savage"
    Ultimate Completion Rate ~1% of active players. Community: "Ugh stop catering to the hardcore raiders"
    Frontline/ Rival Wings/ Hidden Gorge Mount Aquisition ~0.05-1% of active players. Community: "Ugh PVP is so dead in this game, they should stop investing in it"
    Blue Mage Morbol Mount Aquisition ~0.01% of active players. Community: "WoW bLuE mAgE iS sO fUn AnD aCtIvE i CaN't WaIt FoR mOrE lImItEd JoBs"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReiMakoto View Post
    Well im even more confused then lol, if youre talking about Eureka or like Ex roulletes then theres even less argument here and more people ive seen wanting them there because their "balance" is already very loose. Eitherway you're straw manning the complaint crowd pretty hard, most of them are incredibly reasonable.
    i fixed it maybe it comes across better
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReiMakoto View Post
    Well im even more confused then lol, if youre talking about Eureka or like Ex roulletes then theres even less argument here and more people ive seen wanting them there because their "balance" is already very loose. Eitherway you're straw manning the complaint crowd pretty hard, most of them are incredibly reasonable.

    Edit: Considering you changed your entire post in an edit (pretty rude) I guess I should respond again.

    Good for you on clearing, the point of my comment wasnt to insult anyone ,I was showing how ridiculous you were being by generalizing like that. You say its mostly REEEing is not you being objective, as someone who uses those threads whenever they are active, the REEing these days is an absolute minimum and they are actually some pretty fun discussion threads with people talking about balance implications and the such. You say youre trying to be objective but your post so far had been subjective conjecture.
    i was changing it before the comment you made loaded which is why i made the second one, i agree rn the REEing is minimum id say actually non existant, i havent seen a blue thread in quite awhile, the thing im remembering is back when they were plentyfull , i remember having 4 threads about blue in the first page at some point , all asking make it unlimited and it is bad now , but besides being able to do content at level 80 with other jobs and a huge nerf what is the point? i remember how alot of comments were i quit the job cause i find it boring most being at something like lvl 30.
    i disagree not just cause subjectively i like the job but because all those fixes and balances people think they want are objectively flawed and how could they not be flawed you cant compare ideas people who played till at max 50 to months of designing a dev did , if it was from people who played the job to its fullest it would hold some value but at this point its purely fan fiction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeulGDarian View Post
    i was changing it before the comment you made loaded which is why i made the second one, i agree rn the REEing is minimum id say actually non existant, i havent seen a blue thread in quite awhile, the thing im remembering is back when they were plentyfull , i remember having 4 threads about blue in the first page at some point , all asking make it unlimited and it is bad now , but besides being able to do content at level 80 with other jobs and a huge nerf what is the point? i remember how alot of comments were i quit the job cause i find it boring most being at something like lvl 30.
    i disagree not just cause subjectively i like the job but because all those fixes and balances people think they want are objectively flawed and how could they not be flawed you cant compare ideas people who played till at max 50 to months of designing a dev did , if it was from people who played the job to its fullest it would hold some value but at this point its purely fan fiction.
    Yeah again youre generalising so im not gonna reply any further, but there are a lot of complaints from people who have got it to 60 and have done max blue content, myself included, and your appeal to authority fallacy is not a show of something being objectively flawed https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/...l-to-Authority . Saying you need to have to have played blu to its fullest to make complaints about it is also mild no true scottsman fallacy, as someone can demonstrate understandings of systems and have fundamental valid complaints about a thing without meeting your arbitrary threshold for valid criticism.
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    Savage Completion Rate ~5%+ of active players. Community: "Ugh stop catering to savage"
    Ultimate Completion Rate ~1% of active players. Community: "Ugh stop catering to the hardcore raiders"
    Frontline/ Rival Wings/ Hidden Gorge Mount Aquisition ~0.05-1% of active players. Community: "Ugh PVP is so dead in this game, they should stop investing in it"
    Blue Mage Morbol Mount Aquisition ~0.01% of active players. Community: "WoW bLuE mAgE iS sO fUn AnD aCtIvE i CaN't WaIt FoR mOrE lImItEd JoBs"

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