Praetorium - Worst Experience Ever

[GeminiReed]

Problem: We are killing/clearing the MSQ too fast.
Solution: Slow us down. (cap our our damage ilvl to 70-90?)

This way nobody dares to charge and pull every thing in the dungeon.

Then nobody would run it unless they offer 2-3 levels of experience and half the tomestone cap. The problem with MSQ roulette as somebody else pointed out is that the rewards are too good to ignore. Rather this roulette is part of many players' daily chores because there's such a lack of suitable XP sources in the game particularly if you're DPS or you're trying to level a role you're not comfortable with.

The correct fix (IMO of course) involves serving that need. We need better options for levelling. Story XP is stingy enough that you'll run into a wall unless you're overlevelled at the start of the patch. PotD/HoH, leves, and FATE grinding all have issues. Kinda hard to "grind" dungeons when DPS queues are 30+ minutes.

Only then can they convert Rhytalyn, CM, and Prae into solo instances. Perhaps Square gets that and that's why addressing MSQ roulette was stated to not be part of the 5.3 adjustments.

[KadaRemnant]

I have no problem with how praetorium and castrum is. I run them daily for exp and moogle tomes and the cutscenes are still enjoyable to me. And i'm happy the cutscenes can't be skipped. Everyone deserve to enjoy them especially new players.

[Ammokkx]

I have no problem with how praetorium and castrum is. I run them daily for exp and moogle tomes and the cutscenes are still enjoyable to me. And i'm happy the cutscenes can't be skipped. Everyone deserve to enjoy them especially new players.

SUCH DEVASTATION...

THIS WAS NOT MY INTENTION.

[GeminiReed]

I have no problem with how praetorium and castrum is. I run them daily for exp and moogle tomes and the cutscenes are still enjoyable to me. And i'm happy the cutscenes can't be skipped. Everyone deserve to enjoy them especially new players.

I'm am a child of the 70's and these two instances are very reminiscent of the state of after school entertainment at the time. OTOH... after running the roulette daily for the better part of 18 months, sometimes 2 or 3 times a day, it's unusual that I pay much attention.

[Liam_Harper]

It's amazing that Enix has literally bribed people with a huge chunk of exp and tomes, specifically to help the new players through these MSQ dungeons and players still refuse to do so, simply taking the bribe and leaving the new player in the dust with "lol that's Prae".

I hope you guys realize they will rework these into solo instances, remove MSQ roulette, give you nothing back to replace it and that's 100% on the playerbase. MSQ roulette is not daily exp that you are entitled to.

[Ammokkx]

It's amazing that Enix has literally bribed people with a huge chunk of exp and tomes, specifically to help the new players through these MSQ dungeons and players still refuse to do so, simply taking the bribe and leaving the new player in the dust with "lol that's Prae".

I hope you guys realize they will rework these into solo instances, remove MSQ roulette, give you nothing back to replace it and that's 100% on the playerbase. MSQ roulette is not daily exp that you are entitled to.

Frontline is the real XP goldmine people are sleeping on.

Shorter than prae, gives just as much XP.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

It's amazing that Enix has literally bribed people with a huge chunk of exp and tomes, specifically to help the new players through these MSQ dungeons and players still refuse to do so, simply taking the bribe and leaving the new player in the dust with "lol that's Prae".

I hope you guys realize they will rework these into solo instances, remove MSQ roulette, give you nothing back to replace it and that's 100% on the playerbase. MSQ roulette is not daily exp that you are entitled to.

Reminder that the roulette is there for the veterans to help new people solely with queue times, not for new people to provide veterans with Xp and tomes.

Players are entitled to whatever SE gives them because otherwise new players are stuck with dungeons that would take hours to ding. It's only a shame people don't stick to their guns and tell SE to screw themselves for ruining a perfectly fine roulette with unskippable cutscenes that can be watched on the Inn or by using PF.

[Avidria]

I hope you guys realize they will rework these into solo instances, remove MSQ roulette, give you nothing back to replace it and that's 100% on the playerbase.

Good, that's what they should've done from the start.

[Vahlnir]

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It's a shame that this happened as it ruined the experience for you. Been happening for years though, but at least SE didn't repeat the same mistake twice.

Heck, it took me 4-5 days to reach lvl 50 during ARR launch week as DRG, and by that point people were already skipping/rushing. I missed most of the boss fights in Prae because I was watching cutscenes as intended. Thankfully no one cared, and I requeued again right after to experience the fights themselves, but the dev team clearly didn't think that through.

It's a nice concept, but they failed to account for how people act when they want their tomes apparently. The forced cutscenes were a band aid fix of sorts, but I still don't think it addressed the underlying problem. They need to be solo instances, in my opinion. Period. Hopefully you will tough it out because the experience gets better, I promise. I wouldn't let one bad experience ruin what could very well be an enjoyable experience if you can move past it.

[Esmoire]

The ideal outcome is they sack MSQ roulette, make those solo duties, and distribute the XP elsewhere. A little could go into the 50/60 roulette, which some people skip since they feel it's not rewarding enough. ARR FATEs and pre-Stormblood hunt marks could also use a little love. There's places you can go to get XP that are actually fun to play that are worth highlighting and are more flattering for what FFXIV should be.

Of course, they could take out MSQ roulette and not improve XP elsewhere, though that's still the better outcome so that new players can have a much better experience.