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    Renato's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yue_Amariyo View Post
    try playing healer sometime, and get a better understanding the other side of the coin on large pulling. Will help you imprive tanking imo.
    As I stated in my opening comment, I have played healer (WHM) up until around lv 49-50. I couldn't get into it. But I do agree with this. Playing a healer does give you a good perspective on how runs go usually and some of the difficulties you can deal with as a healer. And yes, it does improve tanking AND playing as a DPS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yue_Amariyo View Post
    Then mind telling the dps and healers to stop attacking on pull, and stop putting regen on pull. Most the time i start/stop is to try can get enmity built back up on mobs that went after the healer due tp regen, or dps who want to attack while im pulling.
    Someone else mentioned the same thing in this thread. And yes, while I agree that it is annoying, as a tank grabbing enmity is extremely easy using your tank stance and using the tools provided to you (provoke, AoEs, long range enmity attack) A few AoE spams will gain enmity very quickly. Provoke puts you at the top of the threat list instantly but you have to follow it up with an attack. (Usually your long range skill) I was always taught that no one makes a move before the tank. DPS and Healers should be polite and wait for them to pull before doing anything. I also know that some people are new or just impatient...which can't be avoided.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yue_Amariyo View Post
    Then mind telling the dps, to aoe regardless of pull size, and healer to keep healing up instead of letting hp drop to .1% before healing, as well as to teach new player freecure is a trap. as i person who tanks on the side while main healing, tanking is borderline making me quit the game. tired of the forced large pulls, but no one being on board. Tired of getting mouth off too, if im new to a dungeon and get told im bad due to not being a lvl 80 with lvl 80 experience.
    Sounds like you've just had bad experiences with a small percentage of the playerbase. Honestly, I've only encountered this at the most 2-3 times in my 5 years of playing this game as a tank and I felt the same way. I wanted to stop tanking but instead I chose to work on becoming a better tank so that that situation would never happen again. No one plays perfectly. Maybe check out some tank guides and work on making yourself better. That's what I did regardless of if I was doing well or if that person was just being a jerk. Ask people questions who DO main tank.

    I've also heard from some of my healer friends that healing gets easier as you level. So easy that some of their spells heal for absurd amounts especially in dungeons. It's not a big deal if you aren't constantly topped off and "overhealing" is a thing. It goes back to the "trust you healer" thing I mentioned before. It's like yeah, your health dropped but did you die though? No? Then you're fine. Keep it moving. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yue_Amariyo View Post
    Then mind telling the dps and healers to stop attacking on pull, and stop putting regen on pull. Most the time i start/stop is to try can get enmity built back up on mobs that went after the healer due tp regen, or dps who want to attack while im pulling.
    *waves*

    I'm fairly sure Renato was commenting about tanks who like try and chain pull. That is as the last enemy is dying they run off to grab the next pack. Except some tanks do it when the last enemy still has most of the health. It tends to annoy some DPS and healers. It's a thing in some MMOs though, but there's really no reason to in FFXIV.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renato View Post
    As I stated in my opening comment, I have played healer (WHM) up until around lv 49-50. I couldn't get into it. But I do agree with this. Playing a healer does give you a good perspective on how runs go usually and some of the difficulties you can deal with as a healer. And yes, it does improve tanking AND playing as a DPS.
    Hello *waves*

    It's understandable but maybe stick with it for 10 more levels? Pre level 50 White Mage is a terrible class, hands down the worst healer of the three, but the job radically changes between levels 50 and 60. You actually quit just when the job starts to get good I don't think many like WHM before level 50 though, it's pretty terrible

    It does teach you really good lucid dreaming usage though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rae88 View Post
    *waves*
    I'm fairly sure Renato was commenting about tanks who like try and chain pull. That is as the last enemy is dying they run off to grab the next pack. Except some tanks do it when the last enemy still has most of the health. It tends to annoy some DPS and healers. It's a thing in some MMOs though, but there's really no reason to in FFXIV.
    Thank you. That's exactly what I was talking about.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rae88 View Post
    Hello *waves*

    It's understandable but maybe stick with it for 10 more levels? Pre level 50 White Mage is a terrible class, hands down the worst healer of the three, but the job radically changes between levels 50 and 60. You actually quit just when the job starts to get good I don't think many like WHM before level 50 though, it's pretty terrible

    It does teach you really good lucid dreaming usage though
    Hi! :-)
    I might go back to it at some point. I really didn't mind WHM much at all and I didn't find it to be terrible, just a little boring. I'm used to tanking and melee classes. I will say that I started to like it a little more when I got Holy and I enjoyed the fact that they hit pretty hard regardless of being a healer. I've heard that things get really interesting when they get Bloodlily.

    To be completely honest though. Healing freaks me out. They say that Tanks are the most difficult but I find Healing to be harder. One mistake or delayed reaction that causes you to miss a heal and the tank is down. It's all downhill after that. I never struggled with it or anything but it just made me a bit nervous.
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