My experience as a DPS and my issue with tanks

[Renato]

I'll start by saying I pre-ordered ARR and was a day one player. I stopped playing because I couldn't get into the game and picked it back up when 3.0 was released due to DRK being playable. It's my favorite job in all of FF...From there on out, I've played tank ever since leveling all 4 to 80.

With the delay in patches due to COVID, I've been stepping out of my comfort zone leveling SAM, DRG, RDM to 80 and MCH, MNK, and BRD (which I like the most) to high 70s. I've even tried healing which I just don't find fun.

Anyway...the point of this post. PLEASE, please, please to all the tanks out there....stop grabbing a group of mobs (2-4 enemies) letting the group burn through 2 or 3 and running to the next pack. You might as well just grab both and let the group burn them down in their entirety. In doing this, buffs that enabled are wasted because you're spending time running to the next group. Now the DPS and healers have to spend time re-applying debuffs and buffs/sheilds when they could have just done that from the start with a larger pull.

Speaking of "big pulls," I've always been the type not to force players to do this as I know that there is a thing called tank anxiety. But honestly, if you're not pulling big you aren't playing as efficiently as you could be. I encourage you to just try it. It's really not that bad. Use your cooldowns and don't stand in AoEs. Use positioning. Trust your healer. Running through dungeons with tanks that pull one group at a time isn't terrible but man does it make dungeon running feel 10x longer than it needs to be.

[ItMe]

I totally agree. It's best for everyone if you can plant the group in one place for as long as possible.
Thanks to the healer you're always going to have at least one person with a castbar.

[LolitaBansheeMeru]

Well when I tank i admitly do that before the 1st boss but I do it to test the healer to see if they can handle doing 2+ groups pulled and to warm up after I get a feel for how the party is going I'll pull more or less depending on my judgement of them I know this might sound jerky but ~_~ ya

[Heliantheae]

Yup, I hate it. Either pull big or don't. This middle ground is annoying.

[Quintessa]

Well when I tank i admitly do that before the 1st boss but I do it to test the healer to see if they can handle doing 2+ groups pulled and to warm up after I get a feel for how the party is going I'll pull more or less depending on my judgement of them I know this might sound jerky but ~_~ ya

I don't believe what the OP says applies to you, your style is fine. I think it's indecisive tanks that grab 2-3 mobs and then running off after the DPS blew thier load all over the mobs and are all tired out with nothing else for the next pack. This is different from waiting to get 2 AOEs off to make sure aggro is established while on the go and test pulls where you're not gonna run off while things still aren't dead.

As for me, I just pull everything, even trying out some interesting pulls that feel/look safe to do.

[Seraphor]

Yup, I hate it. Either pull big or don't. This middle ground is annoying.

It's not the middle ground that's the problem, it's the staggered pulls, stop-starting that disrupts other players rotations and ability cooldowns.

Middle ground could be pulling two packs of mobs at a time, instead of a full string of four, that's acceptable in many dungeons.

[SturmChurro]

A lot of players do jump the gun and just drop their stuff really early mid pull, even when I am actively pulling. Seen white mages time and time again waste cds.

[KageTokage]

Regardless of whether I'm playing heals or DPS wishy-washy tanks that wait like 15-20 seconds before moving to the next pack of enemies are irksome.

[Klaleara]

This is interesting to me. As a WoW refugee, that really isn't much of an issue in WoW. Constant pull is pretty common in dungeons over there, especially in mythics.

Just shows how different the combat in FF14 is.

[Laesha]

If dps want this, they need to stop starting dps when the tank runs through the first group with nothing but an overpower. Machinists need to not blow a Drill on a single mob and pull it off when they could wait and use a bio-blaster. Nine times out of ten, when i see staggered pulls, it's because the tank has to stop and retake aggro from some stupid dps who starts dps too soon (and blows all their heavy hits early anyway).