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    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    Have none of you noticed how they added literal doors to slow players down so that you do not pull the entire instance or are expected too?
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    God forbid if you a new tank because the community who have some that have been here since ARR seem to have extremely unrealistic expectations of tanks.
    Salty ppl complaining about bad players + bad players complaining about job they don't know very well. In the end they asked for "make things more easy for me pls", even if they didnt want it. Result : SE made sure aggro is not a problem anymore, and the dps rotations for tanks became easier.
    Tbh i don't think bad/new players complain out of nowhere, it's oten the result of "elitist" players or saly ppl telling then to "git gud" all the time lol.
    I remember stopping tanking after doing castrum meridianum and the Praetorium (because i felt completely lost and didnt want to get in the way of others later).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juzjuzz View Post
    Salty ppl complaining about bad players + bad players complaining about job they don't know very well. In the end they asked for "make things more easy for me pls", even if they didnt want it. Result : SE made sure aggro is not a problem anymore, and the dps rotations for tanks became easier.
    Tbh i don't think bad/new players complain out of nowhere, it's oten the result of "elitist" players or saly ppl telling then to "git gud" all the time lol.
    I remember stopping tanking after doing castrum meridianum and the Praetorium (because i felt completely lost and didnt want to get in the way of others later).
    K heres something that Will blow your mind. Asking someone Who has 480 gear and 3 tanks leveled to max along with such a healer to pull more isnt elitist, if you dont feel like hitting your godamn fcking cooldown should we ask SE to remove that as well? Fck it we removed aggro cause poor yous couldnt stand be asked to keep your aggro lets fcking go ahead and make Who ever has a tank stance invuln to dmg, its ff14 community nobody gives a shit to be challenged and it looks like pulling mobs is too challenging for them. You call someone asking you to play your job elitist scum, not someone Who told you you suck at it nor someone Who berated you for the dps, Just someone Who told you your ilvl is enough to pull 3 more mobs and hit an additional button other than 1 2 aoe combo. Fcking hell fck fck fck fuuuuck, i swear to god a New players not knowing stuff can learn they can pull 1 group at a time, a healer Who is new can ask to slow down and learn, but you cant be hiding your tail behind im learning forever when you got 300+ hours of experience and dismissing everyones plead to Use 1 button as fcking elitist scum that ruin the godamn game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeulGDarian View Post
    K heres something that Will blow your mind. Asking someone Who has 480 gear and 3 tanks leveled to max along with such a healer to pull more isnt elitist, if you dont feel like hitting your godamn fcking cooldown should we ask SE to remove that as well? Fck it we removed aggro cause poor yous couldnt stand be asked to keep your aggro lets fcking go ahead and make Who ever has a tank stance invuln to dmg, its ff14 community nobody gives a shit to be challenged and it looks like pulling mobs is too challenging for them. You call someone asking you to play your job elitist scum, not someone Who told you you suck at it nor someone Who berated you for the dps, Just someone Who told you your ilvl is enough to pull 3 more mobs and hit an additional button other than 1 2 aoe combo. Fcking hell fck fck fck fuuuuck, i swear to god a New players not knowing stuff can learn they can pull 1 group at a time, a healer Who is new can ask to slow down and learn, but you cant be hiding your tail behind im learning forever when you got 300+ hours of experience and dismissing everyones plead to Use 1 button as fcking elitist scum that ruin the godamn game.
    You missed my point what i'm saying is when a good player falls into anger and complains about bad players and start memes to shame then, how is it surprising to see SE making tanking easier?? Ofc a new can learn, i was a joke when i started this game and now i completed e1s>e8s not too long ago as a gnb and drk. Sure tanking is not as difficult as before but i made some progress.
    But when a bad player reacts negatively ater being told he plays wrong, getting salty isnt going to make things better. A LOT of players don't understand/don't care about that, they only generate fear and less tanks.
    A bad player needs to improve their gameplay, i won't argue with that.
    But salty players need to improve to counter bad player complains and avoid SE making everything easier. Learning bad players how to improve is easy most of the time, just stay calm, stay polite and don't let an angry idiot get to you. Even if you don't care, don't give them any room to complain lmao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juzjuzz View Post
    You missed my point what i'm saying is when a good player falls into anger and complains about bad players and start memes to shame then, how is it surprising to see SE making tanking easier?? Ofc a new can learn, i was a joke when i started this game and now i completed e1s>e8s not too long ago as a gnb and drk. Sure tanking is not as difficult as before but i made some progress.
    But when a bad player reacts negatively ater being told he plays wrong, getting salty isnt going to make things better. A LOT of players don't understand/don't care about that, they only generate fear and less tanks.
    A bad player needs to improve their gameplay, i won't argue with that.
    But salty players need to improve to counter bad player complains and avoid SE making everything easier. Learning bad players how to improve is easy most of the time, just stay calm, stay polite and don't let an angry idiot get to you. Even if you don't care, don't give them any room to complain lmao.
    A bad player can rarely be reasoned with when he is bad not cause of lack of experience but cause of laziness. Even with the easier tanking there exist tanks Who cant aggro properly, be cause a bad player dont see wow tanking is easier i can improve he sees wow tanking is easier i can give even less shit than i did before. As for not giving room for bad players to complain forums are a monument to how that can never happen. What could have helped ease the burden of tanking for New players would have been making one tank job noob friendly with alot of safety measures and tools on their disposal, something that would be Hard to die with as a tank, like paladin but no instead they took away everything from every job and yes i also include healers and some dps like for example smn.
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