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    Player
    Jonnycbad's Avatar
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Is it that the pets have lower stats or is it because the master has Maim and Mend II, which increases healing and damage by 30%?
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    Ultimatecalibur's Avatar
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Is it that the pets have lower stats or is it because the master has Maim and Mend II, which increases healing and damage by 30%?
    That is likely the source of the discrepancy. The Pets have the exact same stats as their masters but not the +30% healing/damage trait.
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    Eloah's Avatar
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Is it that the pets have lower stats or is it because the master has Maim and Mend II, which increases healing and damage by 30%?
    No the trait is applied to the pet as well. Here is the trait text
    Increases base action damage and HP restoration by 30%. Also increases base damage and HP restoration of your pet by 30%.
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

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    Chloe Lehideux
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    Zodiark
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    Samurai Lv 74
    Jesus christ no wonder why schoolar is in such bade shape.

    Someone in SE really watched youtube on the second screen instead of DOING THEIR OWN JOB.
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  5. 06-22-2020 03:20 AM
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    OF is a meme and it's too grey to be helped. So I'm not going to try anymore.

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    Chloe Lehideux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsien View Post
    I'd love to hear more thoughts from you. Considering you don't have SCH leveled, that you don't do any currently relevant content from what I can see, and that you don't even have any other healers leveled to make any form of comparison, I'd love to hear why someone with absolutely no real frame of reference thinks the job is in a bad state.
    Told by someone who also didnt level to 80 both astrologian and whm, but ok.
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  7. 06-22-2020 09:52 AM
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    OF is a meme and it's too grey to be helped. So I'm not going to try anymore.

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    Chloe Lehideux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsien View Post
    My SCH is at 80, though, and I have an idea of how the class functions in difficult content. How about instead of deflecting, you address my concern? You see, I have this pet peeve: When someone literally has no frame of reference for a strong opinion on something, I call them out on it.

    So either give me more details or stop parroting information you probably got from someone who does content you're not able to set foot in in the first place. Because I know why SCH is on the weaker side of the healers and I also know its stronger points as well. I know that you don't and that you also don't do content where those strengths and weaknesses matter. So please. Let me into that thought process of yours.
    I am amazed on how easily you got triggered by 2 sentences to the point where you had to reach into lodestone of mine, to make incredible important point of your counter argument on my unimportant comment in a thread where nobody from SE is ever going to see.

    My point still stands even if im 6 levels away from max lvl.
    SCH is playable but that does not mean he is good, and by the comment previously posted in this thread by saying its in bad shape i meant that mechanically this job is a train wreck, with fairy responding slower than 20 action macro and the job itself having misleading potencies that are in reality 30% weaker, this kind of bug is just absurd. So yeah schoolar is in a bad shape and its also underperforming in comparison to other healers, both in rdps and heals. thats it
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 06-22-2020 at 11:15 AM.

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    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    and the job itself having misleading potencies that are in reality 30% weaker, this kind of bug is just absurd.
    This is not a bug...
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    KDSilver's Avatar
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    I am amazed on how easily you got triggered by 2 sentences to the point where you had to reach into lodestone of mine, to make incredible important point of your counter argument on my unimportant comment in a thread where nobody from SE is ever going to see.

    My point still stands even if im 6 levels away from max lvl.
    SCH is playable but that does not mean he is good, and by the comment previously posted in this thread by saying its in bad shape i meant that mechanically this job is a train wreck, with fairy responding slower than 20 action macro and the job itself having misleading potencies that are in reality 30% weaker, this kind of bug is just absurd. So yeah schoolar is in a bad shape and its also underperforming in comparison to other healers, both in rdps and heals. thats it
    Scholar is good in both department.
    Good healing doesn't mean crazy HPs. It means good mitigation and healing when needeed. As for rDPS, he is behind indeed. But not by a enourmous margin. Which is perfectly okay. We can't ask absolute perfect balance damage wise. Besides, when paired with AST, it actually shines because it's healing toolkit works really well with AST.

    What's wrong with scholar currently isn't it's efficiency as a job or a healer, it is indeed the clunky fairy ghosting and "how" it's played, but that problem is the same for all healers.

    As for the pet potency, it's not a bug. That's because the fairy healing doesn't scale the same as the owner, which is something that exists for a very long time. But it displays misleading potencies for the new players who don't know about that.
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    Last edited by KDSilver; 06-22-2020 at 01:31 PM.

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