Healers who rescue pull tanks into mobs.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Yep, these are the toxic players. If a tank isn't comfortable with large pulls, you should have the human decency to first communicate "hey I can take larger pulls" or just deal if they don't think they can. Everyone starts somewhere. Leave the run if the pull speed isn't to your liking but don't bully someone into compliance by abusing a skill that is meant to save people in clutch situations.

Only toxic ass people are arguing against the basic premise here of "communicate to your team members".

Team members also work for the good of the whole team, not just themselves. You can't smokescreen with "you're toxic because you only care about yourselves" while shilling the tank's whims and laziness to the detriment of the whole team.

[Enla]

Team members also work for the good of the whole team, not just themselves. You can't smokescreen with "you're toxic because you only care about yourselves" while shilling the tank's whims and laziness to the detriment of the whole team.

To be fair we had a not so small discussion awhile back about how rescuing the tank is faster and easier than talking to them directly in chat, so it absolutely goes both ways. Frankly I think most of this could be solved just by talking to one another. Most tanks I've met are willing to pull more if the healer doesn't berate them and honestly expresses that they think they and the group can handle it. Even when I had the worst of my tankxiety I would be willing to pull a lot more than I was comfortable with if the healer actually talked to me and treated me like a teammate, rather than a meat shield.

This whole issue could literally be solved if either side stopped assuming they're above basic communication.

[StriderShinryu]

This whole issue could literally be solved if either side stopped assuming they're above basic communication.

Very much this. I would bet money that in the vast majority of content where players are grouping in an pre-organized manner, whether it be with friends, FC mates, in a static, in a PF group, etc. there is at least some level of communication. As soon as it's a random group put together by the game, however, everyone seems to forget that they can talk.

Idiots are gonna idiot and snowflakes are gonna snowflake but the vast majority of players in the game would be willing to cooperate if they just spoke up and said what they wanted. And, put simply, if you're doing content in a randomly organized group and aren't willing to cooperate then I think you really need to look in the mirror when it comes to where the problem lies. And that goes regardless of your "side" in arguments like this.