Healers who rescue pull tanks into mobs.

[MelodyCrystel]

[...] I don't really see rescue as a toxic spell, i'm trying to help you clear faster and if we fail it's on me, could you please explain why you find it... offensive? [...]

Can I be honest...? The part of the sentence I have underlined is something a troll would say while playing the coy-card.
->The faster-argument is furhermore pretty common for impatient people, so you literally dug a hole with this phrase from my point of view. Avoid this phrase, no matter how well-meant it is.

If tanks don't do big pulls - whether or not you asked them for getting more monsters - do the only reasonable thing: Attacking mobs.
->Because useless overhealing (a ka if you happen to be one of these healers who refuse to hit stuff) won't help anybody at this point.

i'm sorry if i'm sounding silly but no one ever flamed for those rescues i'm really trying to understand i swear.

Uff, makes me glad our servers don't share a datacenter anymore, because I'd notice your intention and would therefore bite you for making me your yo-yo. I saw already too many troll-heals as if I could react relaxed to this issue.

Things put plainly: Rescue is meant to get people in time out of AOE (or into a stack). If you try to force your pace onto a tank without even talking to them, I count that as abusing the skill.

[BunYulia]

Can I be honest...? The part of the sentence I have underlined is something a troll would say while playing the coy-card.
->The faster-argument is furhermore pretty common for impatient people, so you literally dug a hole with this phrase from my point of view. Avoid this phrase, no matter how well-meant it is.

Now, taking the "Rescue is toxic used like this" (i understand now) argument aside, i think most people doing dungeon want a smooth,fast run and spending 30minutes doing a dungeon that can be cleared in half of that by putting in a bit more effort doesn't sound bad. (i had to google what "playing the coy-card" means because English is not my first language as you surely noticed! so sorry for any mistakes)

If tanks don't do big pulls - whether or not you asked them for getting more monsters - do the only reasonable thing: Attacking mobs.
->Because useless overhealing (a ka if you happen to be one of these healers who refuse to hit stuff) won't help anybody at this point.

I am not that kind of healer i try to optimize my dps while keeping the team alive so do not worry about it, but i think it's obvious to say that DPS with good aoes will clear much faster with higher group of enemies with or without the dps i could add by having to heal less because of the smaller pulls.

Things put plainly: Rescue is meant to get people in time out of AOE (or into a stack). If you try to force your pace onto a tank without even talking to them, I count that as abusing the skill.

Ok that sounds bad , fair enough as i said i'll make an effort to stop using rescue like that.

Thing is, I don't trust you because I don't know you. If I'm not ahead pulling more,

Yeah that's a fair point too...

[Arillyn]

I think everyone should really level a tank, a healer and a dps - just to see how those three roles play and see things from a different perspective.

A good tank is watching what is going on and will often determine the rate of pulling based on what they see. Watching to see if the healer is keeping up well with heals, or if they are struggling. How quickly is the dps downing the mobs. The tank may or may not be familiar with the dungeon. Also, the tank may be very comfortable with their ability at crowd control, but they may not be comfortable either. (Also a good tank doesn't point mobs at the dps or healer and they also don't play spin the mob.)

A good healer is watching what is going on with the party. And (imo) will keep everyone's health up and on downtime do some dps when it's safe to do so. They'll let the tank know that they can handle big pulls if the tank is willing. They run a stray mob that is hitting them to the tank so the tank can more easily pick it up. They don't yoink the tank into more mobs.

A good dps will watch what is going on around them and with the party. They will down the mobs as fast as they can using aoe abilities on large pulls. If they are ranged and pull hate of some mob, they run to the tank so the tank can more easily pull it off. If the healer is getting pegged by a mob, then down that mob fast so it doesn't take out the healer. Don't run ahead and pull more mobs intentionally because you think the pace is too slow (say something in chat that we can take more).

Having played all three roles I have a better understanding of each and what they entail. I also know what annoys me as a tank, a healer and a dps and I try not to do those things to others because... they are annoying.

[Avidria]

Yeah that's a fair point too...

Yeah and I mean, it's not a personal thing either haha

I've just done thousands of dungeons across a lot of different MMOs and my experiences have been uh... very, very mixed. Queueing up with a full group of strangers is a blindfolded grab bag and I tend to treat it like one.